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Pontiac 75th Anniversary.... they admit to making the Fiero! by Fformula88
Started on: 05-17-2001 09:19 PM
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Report this Post05-17-2001 09:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
Much to my surprise while reading the Pontiac 75th Anniversary www.pontiac75.com website, they do admit they made the Fiero! Although not much is said about later years except for the V6 intro in 1985, they do give it a decent amount of space. There is even a picture of an 84 2m4!

In another kind move they make no mention of the car's decline in sales or cancelation in 1988. Its nice to see them not ignore the car or trash it!

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Report this Post05-17-2001 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Look at the "Pontiac of the month"
August is the Fiero month!

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Report this Post05-17-2001 09:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ElricSISend a Private Message to ElricSIDirect Link to This Post
Z m4.

hehe

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Report this Post05-18-2001 12:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PontiaddictSend a Private Message to PontiaddictDirect Link to This Post
I'm not suprised at all.
Now if it was a GM historical website, I could see them not mentioning or putting the Fiero down.

Looking in the their motorsports section, I thought it was funy to hear the phrases "1981 Grand Prix and "Superior aerodynamics" in the same sentance. They also take credit for the Grand prix 2+2 that Richard Petty designed.
They also mentioned "Pontiac also became the first American car to win the IMSA GTU competition when Clay Young's Fiero won."
... "In hydroplane racing, a highly modified Feister & Naber, hydroplane called the “Hot Shot” took a second APBA championship. It was powered by a 2.5-liter Fiero engine and capable of 130 mph."
... "A retooled Fiero GTP-L was victorious on the IMSA GTP Camel Light circuit, clinching the Manufacturer's Championship for Pontiac. The division kept the title in '88..."
They even have a picture of the Camel Light Series car.
Not bad, not bad at all.

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Report this Post05-18-2001 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GumballSend a Private Message to GumballDirect Link to This Post
hehehehe Zm4. They also have an Sm4, whats that. Just type "fiero" in their photo database. it clearly has 2m4 badging on it. This is ridiculous!

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Report this Post05-18-2001 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for deceler8Send a Private Message to deceler8Direct Link to This Post
The Pontiac 75th ads on TV don't have a Fiero in them, but one of our local car dealers (Hoak Motors) does have a '85 GT in their local TV ads.
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Report this Post05-18-2001 10:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.FrostySend a Private Message to Mr.FrostyDirect Link to This Post
Just in the bookstore the other day "Borders"
and they have a history of Pontiac book 75 years.In it they have a section devoted to the fiero.I was a little surprised.I thought Pontiac disowned the Fiero and ostracized it from the flock.

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Report this Post05-18-2001 11:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PontiaddictSend a Private Message to PontiaddictDirect Link to This Post
Pontiac didn't hate the Fiero, GM and the press are the ones that hated it.
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Report this Post05-18-2001 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
HEHEHE do a photo search for "Fiero" what bone heads! Not only do they have it as a ZM4 but also an SM4. Jeaz man does it ever end? the pain. the PAIN!
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Report this Post05-18-2001 11:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.FrostySend a Private Message to Mr.FrostyDirect Link to This Post
Pontiaddict,I was bieng sarcastic.Pontiac is a division of GM.Specifically it was Chevrolet who disliked the Fiero.It was starting to take the glory away from the Vette.Especially the '89 '90 models.I do think that Pontiac should have had the power in determining whether it stayed or went.If it did,then they failed us and it.The press was largely to blame for the reputation of the car's image.I have heard that they did a lot to keep it alive to that point "88",but I'll take that with a grain of salt.

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Report this Post05-19-2001 12:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SongmanSend a Private Message to SongmanDirect Link to This Post
Does this mean that my Indy is really a Zm4? Cool! heheh

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Report this Post05-19-2001 09:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PontiaddictSend a Private Message to PontiaddictDirect Link to This Post
Mr.Frosty, yeah I meant GM as a corporation and Pontiac as a division seperate from GM.
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Report this Post05-19-2001 10:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
By the end of the Fiero's run, Pontiac had been stripped of the execs that wanted to see it stay. The divisions biggest supporter, Bill Hoglund was gone to Saturn, and GM had a very anti-Fiero man at the helm. It all spelled doom. Its too bad that Hoglund couldn't take the Fiero over to Saturn along with the mill and drill presses.
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Report this Post05-19-2001 11:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sjp777Click Here to visit sjp777's HomePageSend a Private Message to sjp777Direct Link to This Post
Now from what I heard about the Fiero kill and Chevy was that after the 84 year when Chevy saw how well the Fiero sold, they wanted to build their own version, much like the Firebird/Camaro crossover. Pontiac refused to share, even though the powertrain was Chevy. This pissed Chevy off and they became a very vocal opponent to the Fiero within the GM hierarchy.

Now I make no claims as to how true this is, but it certainly could have gone down that way.

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