It would probably be cheaper to do the fastback conversion if you really want a fastback. I know I have said this before but his guy is new so I have to tell him, the fastback Fiero's are overpriced. You can get the same thing in a notchback V6 plus it weighs less. I mean people are asking way to much for fastbacks most of the time, I don't even think they look that much better, in my opinion the front fascia is too pointy and the rear looks incomplete. But that is just my opinion, so please no flames.
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11:43 PM
Aug 20th, 99
kel Member
Posts: 192 From: south central PA Registered: Apr 99
I'd have to agree with Kel and DXR_DAD. The fastbacks are cool and I've always liked the lines of the base coupes, but the aero notchbacks (85 GT, 86-7 SE) are the best-looking, especially with monochrome paint.
There was a guy at the Nationals selling a maroon 87 SE in good shape with T-tops (!) for $2500 OBO. The catch: it was a 4-banger. Still, it made me go all gooey in the knees thinking about the engine-swap possibilities. My wife had to lead me away by the nose before I bought yet another Fiero.
sorry, but my vote definatly goes with the 86-88 gt fastbacks. they are, in my humble opinion, one of the most beautiful american cars ever. back when they were created there was almost a "boxy" style of cars, and just now are cars looking more rounded with curves and stuff, just like the fastbacks. can this fastback conversion be down on all years? i always wanted a 88 gt, but they are really pricy so i am thinking about finding a 88 formula and maybe performing this fastback swap. and is do formulas have gt front stuff?
well after looking around a bit, it seems that i would have to get a whole taillight assembley and so on to make it look like a real GT. and besides it looks like a lot of work!
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87GT Member
Posts: 541 From: San Antonio, FL Registered: May 99
I cruised the internet and many auto traders looking at all types of Fieros. It just turned out that I liked the GT Fastback the most. So, I finally got one. Not that I dont like the notchbacks. There have been some notchbacks Ive seen out there that are pretty stellar. I like all fieros. :-)
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06:08 PM
Gokart Member
Posts: 4635 From: Mashpee, Ma. USA Registered: May 99
I had an 85 notchback back in 90-92 and as much as I liked it every time I saw a GT I started drooling! Now I can drool every time I look out my window!
I converted my 85 se to a fastback with the parts from a parts car that I had bought. It was not hard at all to do, just took a little time. I did the work by myself and it only took 2 afternoons to do the swap. The only problem I had was the tail light wiring harness for the fastback is different than the notchback- The GT has seperate turn signals (yellow) and the nothcback has the combo brake/turn lights. I just added the extra bulbs into my existing harness so the yellow and red lights come on with the brakes and turn signals- the back of the car really lights up bright! Everything else just bolted into the same holes the notchback clip came off from. I only wish that it was a v6 car- then it would be really cool.
Ever considered PISA's fastback conversion called the GTFX? I did the install this past sping and my 85 GT looks great!! I can send pictures or links to any one interested. E-mail me privately and I'll point you in the right direction. Dan-O
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Aug 21st, 99
Patrick Member
Posts: 39421 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Yes, I've seen these before. They're not too bad, but they look...... odd. (Sorry Dan, no offence.) If I had to choose, I'd say I like the version with the spoiler better.
i've seen pics of Dan's GTfx conversion and they look much better than those pics up there. i think with a GT taillight assembley and some other parts they would look they the same as a gt. Cooter? what other parts did you need aside from taillights and the clip?
Go here to see my car---> http://sites.netscape.net/batboybain/batmobile Those pictures that PISA has on their sight suck. My car looks just like a real Fastback GT. Only difference is the tail lights. Bryan (Batmobile) was nice enough to post my pictures on his websight. I have more construction picture of the build-up if anyone is interested. BTW, the doner car PISA used is a coupe not a GT. Your damn right it looks funny. It's got a GT tail with a coupe nose. Don't judge my car until you SEE my car. Dan-O
Four50four, thanks for posting my pics!! BTW, take a look at the truck in the background. Just so you guys don't think I don't know what fast is, that truck is my 460 powered pro-streeter. Tubs, Mickeys, big HP motor, wheelie bars and a ladder bar suspension. It goes very well!! The Fiero was in it's final prep stages when I took that picture. I also got the euro tail light panel for free when I bought the GTFX. Every body who likes what I did, e-mail Dan at PISA and tell him you saw what a real GTFX GT looks like and his websight pictures suck. I have given him permission to use my photo a couple times to no response. I almost didn't buy the kit because of the crappy blacked out windows and the coupe nose. I like coupes, don't get me wrong, but don't call it a GT if it doesn't have an aero nose or ground effects. Thanks for the positive comments!! Dan-O
454- sorry for the slow response- I didnt see your question. On the conversion, I used the rear quarters, decklid, tail lights and parts from the tail light harness from both cars. I had to cut off all the lights from the se harness and splice in the lights from the GT- the bulb sockets are different and wouldn't fit the gt lights and the gt has more lights in the harness than the se had so a heavy duty turn signal flasher was needed to handle the extra lights. I added a rear bumper from an 85 GT so I could have the duals and still have the body moulding match the rest of the car- the 85 uses the grooved moulding but the 86 gt used the smoothe. When Cliff gets the site updated, I will post some pics.
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Aug 31st, 99
RICK Member
Posts: 125 From: St. Louis, Missouri Registered: Apr 99
Greendano...I think I read somewhere with the GTfx kit you have to cut the deck lid to fit, was that a big deal? In general how was the quality of the kit and the instalation of it?
Cutting the deck lid was no big deal. Just take a deep breath before you wreck your precious decklid. I cut it too long so I could fit it perfectly to the quarters. It comes with finish panels to bond onto the inside so that it looks completely stock. Quality was OK, not great, just OK. I sent my sugestions to PISA, I don't think they care. I did a lot of extra bonding and finishing so it would not have exposed seems on the buttresses. The instructions that came with the kit suck! Oh well. If you have never done any body work or fiberglass work, I would suggest not taking on this project by yourself. It is a do-able project, just plan on spending more than "a couple week-ends" worth of work. Dan-O
hey dan, i emailed dan from pisa, and in his resonse was : "keith (me)
thanks for the advice
dan" or something similar to that. you know, that really ticks me off when companies don't put the customer first, and don't act friendly to customers and potential customers.
I've had some dealings with Dan (from Pisa) before as well. I asked for a price on the Finale rebody, and he tried to get me to buy their catalog... not send me a free one, he wanted me to *pay* to find out what their products cost. Later I emailed to ask a question about the camaro headlight modification for the Finale kit, and Dan was actually helpful, he sent me a URL which described the process in which Dodge Caravan headlights are used instead. They haven't updated the website with the info however, it still says Camaro lights. Same with the GTFX photos, why not just take pictures like they did of their other body kits/modifications and show those instead of the "simulated model" ones?? There was a company in Canada (Orleans) called Split Pillar (www.splitpillar.ca) and they were selling Finales for a little while as well. The response I got from them was excellent, very helpful and fast. They were even willing to help me locate a donor car. However, at the time I couldn't afford the kit (still can't!) and was just looking. Unfortunately, they decided to stop selling the Finale this spring.
