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Parking brake handle - how should it work? Should it go down by itself? by cebix
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Report this Post06-01-2013 03:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cebixSend a Private Message to cebixDirect Link to This Post
I saw some threads on it a while ago but I can't find the exact information. My parking brake doesn't work. When I pull the lever up it doesn't go down by itself. I have to push it down a little and then it drops. Then I can lift it up to the point where it clicked before and it will drop normally. If I pull up one click more it stays up and I have to push it down again. Light works.

Is this the proper way the handle should operate? I recall someone said it should drop either way by itself and an explanation but I can't find the thread.
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Report this Post06-01-2013 04:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mcguiver3Send a Private Message to mcguiver3Direct Link to This Post
That's how it works.
The thing is if the PB is set and you forget to disengage it because the lever is down and you don't realize it????????
It happened to me and it costs a lot of $$$$$ when the brakes are toasted.
Also happened at the emissions station. I set the brake out of habit and the tester took the car through the test and roasted the rear brakes to the point of smoke billowing from the wheel wells.
They did ultimately pay to have the brake done after that.
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Report this Post06-01-2013 04:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Just to be clear, the way it's supposed to work is that it should fall back down on its own no matter what position you place it in.
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Report this Post06-01-2013 05:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cebixSend a Private Message to cebixDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

Just to be clear, the way it's supposed to work is that it should fall back down on its own no matter what position you place it in.


That's exactly why I posted this thread. I'm trying to set them up with no luck ( my rear pads are rattling as I drive around - figured it was the parking brake that adjusts them) but I read somewhere sometime ago that this was a problem. Before that I thought the lever works perfectly. If you say it should fall down on its own no matter what then what is the problem here? Is it fixable or only a new lever is gonna cut it?

To be as clear as it can be: I pull up the lever say 3 clicks - it stays up. I have to drop it with a very very slight push. If I lift it up again to that point (no new clicks) - it drops right off. One more click and it stays. And so on.

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Report this Post06-01-2013 08:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
If you only have to push lightly on it for it to fall back down, then I'd say it's fine... probably just a little corrosion in the handle's pivot pin. As for the way it clicks, that's working properly too. Pulling on the e-brake handle is indeed what's supposed to adjust the rear pads, so if yours are still rattling after you release the e-brake, then perhaps one of your caliper sliders is sticking, preventing the adjustment from working properly.
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Report this Post06-01-2013 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoostdreamerSend a Private Message to BoostdreamerDirect Link to This Post
I've read conflicting information about the parking brake NOT adjusting the pads. Maybe I read that in the Ogre's Cave. Might have been in my brake thread. I'll see if I can find a link.

Edit: I found it. It was The Ogre and one of my brake threads:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/126347.html


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Report this Post06-02-2013 08:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cebixSend a Private Message to cebixDirect Link to This Post
Thanks I get it now. Looks like the lever is okay then.
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Report this Post06-02-2013 09:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for edboogieSend a Private Message to edboogieDirect Link to This Post
I had a similar problem, couldn't get the park brake to disengage/release all the way. I replaced the PB cables one by one, leaving the one that runs into the car for last. Sure enough, that one had a hole rusted in the sheath and the cable was rubbing against the frame, which was making it not release. Took me a while to figure that one out.
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Report this Post06-02-2013 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickTRoofSend a Private Message to PatrickTRoofDirect Link to This Post
And now for the stupid question...what if my parking brake works just fine, but the handle does not drop on its own at all? Is there a spring that's broken? What should I look for?
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Report this Post06-03-2013 07:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
The only spring in handle mechanism is the one which pushes up on the orange button at the end of the handle. If the button doesn't automatically spring back after you push on it, then that spring is broken and may be interfering with the proper functioning of the handle. If that's not the case, then the handle should drop down loosely with gravity unless you have some corrosion in the pivot pin of the handle (see arrow).

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Report this Post06-03-2013 08:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickTRoofSend a Private Message to PatrickTRoofDirect Link to This Post
So I'll just shoot some PB Blaster in there and see what happens.
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Report this Post06-03-2013 10:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BoostdreamerSend a Private Message to BoostdreamerDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Boostdreamer:

I've read conflicting information about the parking brake NOT adjusting the pads. Maybe I read that in the Ogre's Cave. Might have been in my brake thread. I'll see if I can find a link.

Edit: I found it. It was The Ogre and one of my brake threads:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/126347.html



I have been driving around with my parking brake cables loose for a few months. I didn't tighten them back up when I put my rear calipers on. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/127129.html

I have been going through a punch list on my GT and one of those things to check was all the idiot lights. I pulled the parking brake handle to see if the light would come on. It did but it wouldn't go back out when I put the lever back down. After messing with it a little while, I learned that there has to be a little pressure on the cables to get the light to go out. So I tightened it back up.

The light went out and it may be my imagination but it sure does feel like the brakes are stronger now.


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Report this Post06-03-2013 10:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for zkhenningsSend a Private Message to zkhenningsDirect Link to This Post
If any of you are having trouble remembering you set the brake, there is a switch on the parking brake hooked up to a thin purple wire. The wire is so thin and on the ground, a prime place to rust off the switch, just like mine had. When I took my carpets out I found it and I re- hooked it back up, and now the brake light (in the dash) comes on and the chime dings while the parking brake is on and the key is in the run position. It is really annoying to have the chime going too, I am going to try and disable the chime, but just having the brake light turn on is enough to let you know the parking brake is on.
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Report this Post06-03-2013 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickTRoofSend a Private Message to PatrickTRoofDirect Link to This Post
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bloozberry:

The only spring in handle mechanism is the one which pushes up on the orange button at the end of the handle. If the button doesn't automatically spring back after you push on it, then that spring is broken and may be interfering with the proper functioning of the handle. If that's not the case, then the handle should drop down loosely with gravity unless you have some corrosion in the pivot pin of the handle (see arrow).

Problem solved. On a side note, PB Blaster in the eye really burns (the spray button was cracked!).

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