My seals are in pretty bad shape and need to be replaced. I ordered new ones from the Fiero Store, but I'm not sure how to go about installing them. Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Posts: 946 From: Levittown, NY, USA Registered: Apr 2002
I'll try to remember to scan the pages from the shop manual and post tonight. It is a fairly lengthy process that requires drilling out the pop rivets. That is why mine are not installed yet. Still don't have those round tuits.
You will want to buy replacement pop rivets and all of the plastic rivet things that hold the inner door panel to the door. While in there I would suggest what I will do and clean and lube the lock mechanisms. I am guessing you will need a second person to help out with stuff.
The reason you have to take out the pop rivets is that they hold the door glass in the door. You have to remove the glass to get to the rear screws holding in the dew wiper. Never heard it called that, but it is an appropriate name.
My guess is that the first door will take several hours while you figure out how to get your hands in there and reattach all the plastic with the pop rivets. Probably take half the time for the second door!
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Ray_and_kevin Member
Posts: 185 From: Round Rock, TX, USA Registered: Sep 2012
I'll try to remember to scan the pages from the shop manual and post tonight. It is a fairly lengthy process that requires drilling out the pop rivets. That is why mine are not installed yet. Still don't have those round tuits.
You will want to buy replacement pop rivets and all of the plastic rivet things that hold the inner door panel to the door. While in there I would suggest what I will do and clean and lube the lock mechanisms. I am guessing you will need a second person to help out with stuff. Interesting that the post pointed to by others does not mention removing the pop rivets.
The reason you have to take out the pop rivets is that they hold the door glass in the door. You have to remove the glass to get to the rear screws holding in the dew wiper. Never heard it called that, but it is an appropriate name.
My guess is that the first door will take several hours while you figure out how to get your hands in there and reattach all the plastic with the pop rivets. Probably take half the time for the second door!
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CodeSlinger Member
Posts: 68 From: Aurora, CO USA Registered: Mar 2013
I'll try to remember to scan the pages from the shop manual and post tonight. It is a fairly lengthy process that requires drilling out the pop rivets. That is why mine are not installed yet. Still don't have those round tuits.
You will want to buy replacement pop rivets and all of the plastic rivet things that hold the inner door panel to the door. While in there I would suggest what I will do and clean and lube the lock mechanisms. I am guessing you will need a second person to help out with stuff. Interesting that the post pointed to by others does not mention removing the pop rivets.
The reason you have to take out the pop rivets is that they hold the door glass in the door. You have to remove the glass to get to the rear screws holding in the dew wiper. Never heard it called that, but it is an appropriate name.
My guess is that the first door will take several hours while you figure out how to get your hands in there and reattach all the plastic with the pop rivets. Probably take half the time for the second door!
So in general terms, you have to take off the inner door panel, then detach the window?
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Ray_and_kevin Member
Posts: 185 From: Round Rock, TX, USA Registered: Sep 2012
Yes, you take off the panel and take the glass loose and I promise to get the manual on the scanner tonight and post the instructions from the official GM manual.
It doesn't involve taking the glass off, but simply taking the track off and moving the glass back to get access to the middle screw which is the hardest to get to.
I've done the dew wipes on two of my Fieros that way and it wasn't all that bad. After the first one is done you'll be much faster on the other one.
Some people also have had success using a specialty tool by Rodney Dickman: http://rodneydickman.com/ca...h=27&products_id=131 to take care of the 'middle screw'. This method saves you taking the glass track off, but getting the new screw back in may be tricky.
Your choice!
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Ray_and_kevin Member
Posts: 185 From: Round Rock, TX, USA Registered: Sep 2012
I scanned the method in the shop manual but am unsure how to include the images here. I would be tempted to try others' suggestions of doing it without removing the glass. Taking out pop rivets and renewing them sounds pretty scary.
I can add the scans if someone can point out how to do it. How do y'all get pictures in your posts?
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Robertzep2 Member
Posts: 233 From: Akron, Ohio USA Registered: Oct 2012
I've done over a half dozen sets of outer dew wipes without doing anything to the window except rolling it up and down. After the door panel is removed, remove the 2 rubber fillers at front and rear of the top of the door, and the mirror, and the inner dew wipes. Scribe around the nuts that hold them, then loosen the two felt pads at the top of the door. With the window down, you can access several of the screws at each end of the outer dew wipe.
Then roll the window up. The window will tilt inward leaving more room at the outer side. Using a box cutter, cut away the rubber of the old outer dew wipe. Makes getting Rodney Dickman's Dew Wipe Tool down in there. You may have to place your finger between the window and the dew wipe to exert pressure against the middle screws or a piece of wood shim used for squaring doors and windows during construction. To keep from dropping the tiny screws down into the door, I insert a magnetic pickup tool into the door, just beneath the screw I'm working on. Breaking the screws loose is the hardest part. That's why you need something to exert force against the end of the tool.
Once the old dew wipe is removed, install the new one and hold it in place by mounting and partially tightening the mirror. With the window down, install the screws at the outer ends of the dew wipe. Raise the window, tilt it inward and install the middle screws. When replacing the screws, use some butyl windshield setting tape or even some chewing gum to hold the screw onto the dew wipe screwdriver tip. Realign the inner felt pads and install the other parts.
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Ray_and_kevin Member
Posts: 185 From: Round Rock, TX, USA Registered: Sep 2012
Thanks for the information Robertzep2 on how to post images. And a really big thanks to Fierofool and others for the information on getting to those middle screws. Glad I did *not* do it the way the shop manual says. I may have those outer dew wipes on by Monday!!!
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josef644 Member
Posts: 6939 From: Dickinson, Texas USA Registered: Nov 2006
I've done over a half dozen sets of outer dew wipes without doing anything to the window except rolling it up and down. After the door panel is removed, remove the 2 rubber fillers at front and rear of the top of the door, and the mirror, and the inner dew wipes. Scribe around the nuts that hold them, then loosen the two felt pads at the top of the door. With the window down, you can access several of the screws at each end of the outer dew wipe.
Then roll the window up. The window will tilt inward leaving more room at the outer side. Using a box cutter, cut away the rubber of the old outer dew wipe. Makes getting Rodney Dickman's Dew Wipe Tool down in there. You may have to place your finger between the window and the dew wipe to exert pressure against the middle screws or a piece of wood shim used for squaring doors and windows during construction. To keep from dropping the tiny screws down into the door, I insert a magnetic pickup tool into the door, just beneath the screw I'm working on. Breaking the screws loose is the hardest part. That's why you need something to exert force against the end of the tool.
Once the old dew wipe is removed, install the new one and hold it in place by mounting and partially tightening the mirror. With the window down, install the screws at the outer ends of the dew wipe. Raise the window, tilt it inward and install the middle screws. When replacing the screws, use some butyl windshield setting tape or even some chewing gum to hold the screw onto the dew wipe screwdriver tip. Realign the inner felt pads and install the other parts.
Sounds pretty straight forward. I'll give a try this weekend, thanks!
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