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Coolant temp gauge wire colors? by ericjon262
Started on: 08-31-2012 04:17 PM
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Report this Post08-31-2012 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Direct Link to This Post
guys, I need help! what color is the coolant temp gauge signal wire?

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Report this Post08-31-2012 04:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolDirect Link to This Post
Coming off the sending unit, one is green and the other is green with a white tracer. You can insert a paper clip into the lead and ground each one to find which is for the light and which is for the gauge.
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Report this Post08-31-2012 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Direct Link to This Post
I'm just trying to match the colors on my wiring harness I'm building for my 3500 swap, do you know which is supposed to be the light and which is supposed to be the gauge? I don't care about the light, but I do want the gauge to work, and my CTS only has 2 outputs, one for the ecm, and one for the gauge.

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The coolant temp sensor doesn't control the gauge on a 2.8. Its signal is used by the ECM to control the injectors.

The schematic says the two wires for temperature are light green and dark green but with visual inspection of my 3 cars, the wires are the same color green with one being solid and the other with a white or yellow tracer.

The solid color wire is the temp light and the wire with the tracer is for the gauge. This is coming from the corner of the V6 head nearest the coil.
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Report this Post08-31-2012 07:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Direct Link to This Post
yes, but the motor I'm swapping in does control the gauge and provide a signal for the ECM, I just want the harness to match.

Thanks, you've been helpful.
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Report this Post08-31-2012 07:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BixbySend a Private Message to BixbyDirect Link to This Post
What i would like to know is what side of the sensor is for the light & what side is for the gauge? I'm working on a swap and don't have the original wire colors. I used a connector from off the coil of a GM truck - it has the same connector as the 2 wire temp sensor.
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Report this Post08-31-2012 08:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolDirect Link to This Post
Bixby, the solid green wire (light) goes to the terminal nearest the slit in the side of the sender. That's for the light. The wire with the tracer (gauge) is the other.
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Report this Post09-01-2012 06:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BixbySend a Private Message to BixbyDirect Link to This Post
So if I hold the sensor so that the tab that hooks the the wiring harness is at the bottom of the mushroom shape, the left wire is what color? Thanks.


 
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Bixby, the solid green wire (light) goes to the terminal nearest the slit in the side of the sender. That's for the light. The wire with the tracer (gauge) is the other.


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Report this Post09-01-2012 09:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hookdonspeedClick Here to visit hookdonspeed's HomePageSend a Private Message to hookdonspeedDirect Link to This Post
ill look for you in a minute, but i *think* you need to switch to the 3wire cts, the factory 3500 CTS is ground and light, not gauge.

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Report this Post09-01-2012 09:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolDirect Link to This Post
Bixby, I thought you were using the original 2.8 gauge sending unit. I was describing that sender. The wiring for that sender are as I described for the gauge and light. Sorry.
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Report this Post09-01-2012 11:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ericjon262Send a Private Message to ericjon262Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by hookdonspeed:

ill look for you in a minute, but i *think* you need to switch to the 3wire cts, the factory 3500 CTS is ground and light, not gauge.


I have the three wire.
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Report this Post09-02-2012 02:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BixbySend a Private Message to BixbyDirect Link to This Post
Could some one take a picture of their pigtail for this two wire connector for me? One that shows the wires as well as the connector? Stupid request but it sure would help me.
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Report this Post09-02-2012 05:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HudiniSend a Private Message to HudiniDirect Link to This Post
The sensors:


An '84 pigtail similar to what you are looking for?:

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Report this Post09-02-2012 06:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BixbySend a Private Message to BixbyDirect Link to This Post
Thanks. I guess it's the v6 one I'm in need of more, the sensor on the left top picture . I'd like to see the clip on the plug & the colors of the wires going to the plug as well.
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Report this Post09-02-2012 06:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
The sensor on the top left, the two wire CTS - connects to the ECM only and has no provisions for gauge.

How most people solve this problem, is they swap the 2 wire CTS for a 3 wire combo CTS and temp gauge sender.

With the 2 wire CTS, you had a yellow and a black wire. The yellow wire ran to the CTS input of the PCM. The black wire ran to the ground (return) connection for the CTS.

When you swap to a 3 wire CTS, it will have a black wire, a yellow wire, and a green wire



The yellow and black wires run as they did with the 2 wire CTS. The green wire then connects to the temperature gauge.

Usually there is an output on the PCM to control the temp light. My suggestion is to hook that up also, just so you have an alerting visual indication if the engine does start to overheat.

PM or email me if you need a 3 wire pigtail and I can supply you with one.

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Report this Post09-02-2012 06:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HudiniSend a Private Message to HudiniDirect Link to This Post
I think my V6 is like this but don't have a picture. I think it's yellow and black or white and black. Someone will answer with better info:

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