quote Originally posted by jwrape: Ah, that's a eay one, let me show you here. Watch how they fill in the light cavity here. http://youtu.be/XI26GvKsrOE Bascially heat, push in as far as needed, stick the edges and put a small slice in the center and then stick the rest and cut away extra

On the Fiero's front turn signals (im thinking of the deep aero bumper ones) you would not be able to just heat it to extremes like in the video and expect it to last. It will be over stretched and will pull back off the inside edges, allowing dirt and water to get in and the area will fail. Its just too little vinyl to cover that much area.

If you want your wrap to last, the smart move would be to wrap the inside of the area first, putting the seam at the top of the hole, and then wrap the rest. Cut your hole out leaving a half inch to wrap inside the turn signal opening. The seems are almost invisible and you dont have to worry about the wrap failing because the vinyl isnt stressed.

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Not true and take it from someone who has done that specific area, you must use 94 primer on the curves like that or it will ALL lift. Put cuts in the vinyl like has been mentioned is actually going to stress these areas more and it will, not possibly, but will split. As was mentioned before, anyone can do this, but the quality is largely dependent on a great amount of time to get that way.

What is not true?

I should have used the quote button, but I feel the statement you made about how to wrap the front of the fiero was incorrect.

Maybe you dont understand what I was saying. If you cover the inside edges of the opening with a seperate piece of vinyl, there is nothing that could lift because the vinyl isn't stressed. I know you guys are experts with all the YouTube videos you've seen, but you can't make a 8"x3" (23sq inches) piece of vinyl cover the inside walls that are 5" deep (43sq inches). There is no vinyl on earth that you can stretch twice it's origional size and expect it to last, no matter how much primer 94 you use.

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quote Originally posted by 85sliverGT: Maybe you dont understand what I was saying. If you cover the inside edges of the opening with a seperate piece of vinyl, there is nothing that could lift because the vinyl isn't stressed. I know you guys are experts with all the YouTube videos you've seen, but you can't make a 8"x3" (23sq inches) piece of vinyl cover the inside walls that are 5" deep (43sq inches). There is no vinyl on earth that you can stretch twice it's origional size and expect it to last, no matter how much primer 94 you use.

I did not learn vinyl wrapping from YouTube, but I do know where I learned my manners from.

A little hung up on one line eh? I retract my previous statement, you are NOT an expert because you've seen youtube videos. Good, lets move on. All you've said so far is that isn't the right way to do it...so what is? How would you wrap the turn signal openings? If you've done this in the past I wouldn't mind seeing pictures

quote Originally posted by 85sliverGT: Maybe you dont understand what I was saying. If you cover the inside edges of the opening with a seperate piece of vinyl, there is nothing that could lift because the vinyl isn't stressed. I know you guys are experts with all the YouTube videos you've seen, but you can't make a 8"x3" (23sq inches) piece of vinyl cover the inside walls that are 5" deep (43sq inches). There is no vinyl on earth that you can stretch twice it's origional size and expect it to last, no matter how much primer 94 you use.

I did not learn vinyl wrapping from YouTube, but I do know where I learned my manners from.

quote Originally posted by jreigner: I did not learn vinyl wrapping from YouTube, but I do know where I learned my manners from.

think you made your point the first time

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As far as I can see only two maybe three people on this thread actually have the experience to answer this thread. If you dont like my answer, fine. But I'm not using YouTube or guessing in anyway. This is why I dont post near as much as I read posts here.

I would like to know more about this. My rebody has several cracks in the finish and I see this as a way of eliminating them. If anyone has personal experience in wrapping a car I would like to talk to them. If there are Internet references that would be cool too.

jreigner- I answered the original question on the first page. We've moved onto how to properly install vinyl. It's become pretty clear you don't have the answers to my questions, which is why you keep ignoring them.

According to you, what would be the correct way to wrap the fieros front turn signals? If you wrapped yours by heating it and pushing it all in that opening, how is it looking now? Can we see some pictures of your experience?

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Yes your right, you can't make a 5" piece cover that space- I'm not being an ass by saying that. What I am saying is I didn't put a pizza hut logo on my door- I used primer and one piece covered and stretched over the aero nose of my gt. I do not do vinyl graphics for a living and I'm sure you'll be hard pressed to find more who do. So kudos to you for you experience, but I'm telling you what I have done and how I did it. I have at least enough sense to realize this is a forum of opinion AND fact. I'll be working on that pic- I don't have a real close up of the nose.

To answer E.Furgal's question "how do they do light holes?": This is how I would do it:



(to show how the vinyl is laid inside)








Not trying to make it pretty, just did it up quick to show how its done.

I would say, after almost completing my wrap that it would take about 60"x 45 ft. But I would get 50' to have a little extra.

a 60"x20' roll does a lot but the hoods take a lot of material to cover and then little odds and ends take up a good amount too.

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This must have been asked before, But WHAT is the "Purpose" for this stuff ?? Why not just paint the car ?

Because I cannot afford this in paint


I have had the wrap since February with 8000 miles and the vinyl has held up excellent.

This might have been asked already..but I didn't feel like reading through two pages of childish bickering...

What's it like to remove this stuff after it's been stuck to the car for 10+ years?

quote Originally posted by urbex: This might have been asked already..but I didn't feel like reading through two pages of childish bickering... What's it like to remove this stuff after it's been stuck to the car for 10+ years?

I removed some of mine the other day. It was well stuck but still pulled right off.
After 10 yrs. who knows. It's still a newer product than ten years. It has been used on Nascar for years. They wrap all their cars.

For those of you who have used this, I have a question for you.

I have a 1989 Jaguar XJS V-12. The paint is in excellent shape but the previous owner must have machine buffed the car. The entire car is very glossy but the trunk area and drivers side sail panel area were "burned through" the clear coat and have started to fade. (The paint is original laquer).

I'm going to prep and paint the car next year but it will be outside until then and I'd like to cover the faded area with a gloss black wrap to prevent the paint from further oxidizing etc. Will I be able to remove the vinyl wrap easily over a "more flatter / faded surface" (as opposed to more glossy paint surface)?

I just don't want any surface rust starting (I can see just a tiny bit of that happening now and I don't really want it to go any further).

Any thoughts?? From some of the posts I've read -including the one right above this one, - it appears that it removes "fairly easily".

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Hi... I wrapped a Fiero that i sold a few years back..... The paint was reallybad, and i wanted to practice... I work at a Vinyl shop so i got the vinyl for free, not sure how much i actually used,. the vinyl color was " cardinal red" then i decaled it up after. see the photobucket site for other pics and details on how i did it.... here is the before and after pic....


LINK TO PHOTOBUCKET:

http://s999.photobucket.com...004/#!cpZZ2QQtppZZ16

It looks like mine is gonna take a 60"x40' roll to complete.

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