ok, so i've been considering doing this for a while because i dont really like the big mustang scoop on the notchback/formula that i have... so i finally went and bought an 04-05 subaru STI hood scoop... i took some pictures and i kinda need some opinions, also i took some pics with this spoiler i found but idk... but just let me know what you think.... thanks!!!!

I actually like the scoop. Something different is bad at all!

I think I would like it if it were half as tall.

Doesn't really go with the lines of the car?

Looks like a Dodge Shadow wing? If so, they look great on a notchie. Good eye.

The STI extractor looks better than the Mustang ones IMHO. (I prefer the stock decklid, but that is just my preferance.)

Tony

Once the cars painted I think the wheels will fit the car better... And I agree that the STI extractor doesn't fit the lines of the car but I want something different... Also it's going to be a lot lower once it's actually molded to the hood, right now it's sitting on top of the raised part of the deck lid and also the bolts on the scoop are making it stick up even higher... And Im not sure what I pulled the spoiler off of... But I think it'll look great once everything is painted and actually bolted on...

Make the base 2-3 inches lower and you just might make me a fan

quote Originally posted by arte444: I think I would like it if it were half as tall.

Then get the WRX one.

He can get the wrx one... But personally I love the STI scoop

I'm thinking of using a cut down 1971 Trans AM scoop. almost the same look, but Lower.

Height wise, that is pretty similar to my Mopar Six Pack scoop. A little narrower.

I find that adding a fan inside really helps the cooling. I don't know if the Subaru scoop is big enough for that though.

The look isn't bad. You should have it mounted far enough away from the glass to not impact opening.

Arn

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The scoop is sitting a little high, because it's perched on top of the decklid hump. If you look closely, you can see an inch or so gap around the outside edge. So when installed, the scoop should sit a little lower.

That said, I like it.

Actually Arn, I'm thinking about drilling holes and using pins on the rear deck lid, so instead of it opening like normal you just pull the pins and pull the hood straight up... That would help with track use and it'll help so I don't have to mount the scoop in the middle of the hood... I'm not sure, it's just an idea I've been throwing around...

Make it a shaker! Put a hole in the deck and hook it up to the intake manifold.

By hooking it to the intake manifold, how will that release the hot air? I guess I'm not understanding your concept, how would that be done???

Sorry, you probably don't go back that far!....it's pretty simple.

Yes I have seen those but I wanted to use mine for releasing air from the engine bay... How would I do a shaker with this scoop and on a mid engine???

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I'm sorry I am not more clear.

Use the scoop you have. Attach it (with some space between) to the engine on your Fiero. Cut a hole in the deck so when you close the lid, the scoop sticks up as shown in your photographs. It will cool the engine as well as if you built it into the decklid, but with less body work to worry about. You may have to add a flat sheet to the bottom of the scoop to cover the gap. I am using the Barracuda picture to demonstrate the principle, not to have you use the parts.

edit: imagine you are looking at the back of your Fiero when you look at the red car.

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quote Originally posted by FieroFERG: Yes I have seen those but I wanted to use mine for releasing air from the engine bay... How would I do a shaker with this scoop and on a mid engine???

you mean like this one?

quote Originally posted by Sourmug: you mean like this one?

Isn't this an intake though. I think the OP is wanting vent hot air from under the deck lid.

Yeah Donnie... I'm wanting to vent hot air from under the deck lid, I mean I like the idea of a shaker but I honestly don't see the practicality of a rear facing intake... I just don't understand it...

I have the mustang scoop on mine but it is purely cosmetic. Its not even open under it to the ehgine bay. The fiero is designed to extract air through the vents on both sides from the bottom up while driving and of course since hot air rises it would allow heat out at idle. Some people have put fans under their vents to promote better air flow while in stop and go traffic by having a thermostat turn on the fans at a certain temperature. Seems like a good idea to me but really I don't know that it is needed for sure.

Some Mustangs have a shaker hood too. Its easier to work with because its relatively square. I had the Barracuda shaker on my Magnum.

Mustang kit
http://www.americanmuscle.com/ramairshscsy1.html

Magnum...it was quite a bit of work including painting.

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quote Originally posted by nitroheadz28: Are you guys illiterate? The man wants a vent, not a damn intake scoop...

so why don't you tell us what makes it one or the other? We are not suggesting that it be attached to the engine air intake.

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If the STI scoop had a flat mounting flange, you could cut a hole in the decklid, mount it from the underside, use a rubber gasket kit for around the decklid skin and give it the apearance of a shaker intake......and it would still serve the function that you want as a vent. When you raise the decklid, it would simply raise along with the lid.

Back on track, I think it will look good just mounted as-is. The shaker idea is if you want a true one-off design on your car since no one has even tried an STI scoop on a Fiero yet.

That scoop/vent looks better on the back of your fiero than it does on the front of a subaru!

quote Originally posted by Reallybig: That scoop/vent looks better on the back of your fiero than it does on the front of a subaru!

i agree

quote Originally posted by nitroheadz28: Are you guys illiterate? The man wants a vent, not a damn intake scoop...

No, are you ? What grade did you graduate from. Any thing thats open is a vent. On a Fiero, you want the open end at the back because the air is extracted by venturi effect. A shaker open at the back allows air to be sucked out the back the same way as a reversed scoop or a cowl induction hood. It also allows air to come up around the outer edges which are also open so its twice as good as a backward mopar or mustang scoop. The shaker on the pictured Magnum goes nowhere, it just rests on 4 studs that hold it up off of the engine. Its nowhere near where the intake port is which is in the driver side front bumper. What make a scoop ' SCOOP ' air in, is being open in the front and being in the airstream where moving air is forced IN. It CANT scoop anything in on the back of a Fiero...the window and roof block any air from going in unless its over the top of the roof. The ONLY other way a rear scoop can scoop air in on a Fiero is if you drive it backwards at 50+ mph.

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quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: The ONLY other way a rear scoop can scoop air in on a Fiero is if you drive it backwards at 50+ mph.

& if one is doing this often enough, I think one has larger problems than the look of a car.

Nevermind.

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On the Magnum, I just had 4 holes drilled in the bottom plate of the scoop. I put 4 lengths of treaded rod on engine bolts already there, and bent them so that they lined up with the ones in the scoop. Then just put some stop nuts at the proper height (just below the hood line), set the scoop on top, and reached thru and put nuts on them to hold it in place. Its only cosmetic and not connected to the intake system at all. Whe I open the hood, it stays because its mounted to the top of engine. When its shut the lip is just below the hood with maybe 1/2" gap all around. Rising heat on your would come out thru that gap, and if you made a big hole in the bottom plate, air would also rise out thru the little 'scoop vents'. Air flowing over the top of the shaker would also help extract that heat and let it out over the back of the decklid. On the Magnum, the bottom is not open at all since its just for looks and I didnt want all the water and dirt going into the engine bay. Its a show car.

Ok, well what I'm tryin to figure out with my scoop is the fack that I'd have to cut a pretty large hole in the good due to the fact that the lip on the scoop sticks out pretty fa, so I'm still debating the shaker style compared to just mounting it to the hood...

If you're going to drill/cut into the rear decklid, start with the easiest option. I know it won't match the contour of the deck exactly, but pick a position, and anchor it down. If not for function at first, just to get the feel for how you like it. If you decide to keep the look, you only need cut as big a hole under the scoop as you want. Later if you decide to "shaker" it, you're going to have to cut out the rest of the shape anyhow. Just my thoughts. Good luck!

love the shaker

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You can trim down the lip/flange on your scoop so it dont come out so far. I dont know if you mount it on top whether you plan on molding it in or not. Being a custom car builder for 50 years, Id recommend just getting a nice clean fit and bolting it on. If you do the shaker thing, it dont matter how big the lip is. Its going to be anchored to the engine anyhow so it cant be seen when the hood is shut over it. The hole in the decklid only needs to be big enough to clear what sticks up. If you make a nice clean cut, you wont even have to paint anything, just run some rubber black or chrome ' U channel ' around the edge of the cutout.

I don't really want to mold it in just yet but I think I'm gonna try to get ahold of an extra deck lid and play around with it to see what I like
Better... I'm kinda a visual person so right now I like it just mounted on top but I'm really tossin around the idea of the shaker style... But I have to see it first... So I'm gonna play around with an extra hood in the next few weeks and then go from there...

This Mopar 6-pack scoop on my Coronet is just trimmed around the base and bolted on the hood. No molding, therefore will never crack or break out. To me it looks just fine.