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Simplest way to drain bad fuel from fuel tank? by Biggs3000
Started on: 05-16-2012 09:35 PM
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Report this Post05-16-2012 09:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Biggs3000Send a Private Message to Biggs3000Direct Link to This Post
Evening Everyone,

My '85 GT has been sitting stationary for months on end with a half tank of fuel and no preservative....so I'd like to empty the whole tank and fill up with a fresh tank of unleaded as I just completed a tune-up and other maintenance.

I thought I had found an article in the Ogre's Cave on dropping the fuel tank, but I can't find it anymore...

Anyone have any advice for the easiest way to drain the bad fuel out of my tank?

Thanks!
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Report this Post05-16-2012 09:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyDirect Link to This Post
Remove the fuel line from the engine and hotwire the fuel pump and drain it into a gas can..btw if it's only been a few months you will most likely be ok with what's in there

Edit: I just did a quick search and found this thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/115153.html
4th post down has the info on how to easily hot wire the pump

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Report this Post05-16-2012 10:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Biggs3000Send a Private Message to Biggs3000Direct Link to This Post
Thanks! I'll give it a shot Friday evening after work.

I don't want to put a number on the months my '85 has been stagnant so we'll just say many months
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Report this Post05-16-2012 11:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanDirect Link to This Post
you can smell bad fuel,just open the fill cap & smell it.My car had set for a couple years I was going to drain the tank.but after smell test I just drove the car & ran it out.
..If unsure compare it to the gas in another car.just smell it, a gallon will go bad much faster than 4 or 5 gallons
gas seems to hold up much better than it did 15 years ago.

..There is a definite noticible smell to bad gas..
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Report this Post05-16-2012 11:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KhwSend a Private Message to KhwDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Biggs3000:

Anyone have any advice for the easiest way to drain the bad fuel out of my tank?

Thanks!


Easiest? Screwdriver and a hammer.

Of course that kind makes the tank usless afterwards.

I beleive on the ALDL connector in the center console behind the cig lighter plate there are 2 contacts you can jumper that will power the fuel pump. Then it's just a matter of unhooking the fuel line from the throttlebody and extending it to some gas cans while the fuel pump empties the tank. If you do a search, I've seen pictures on here showing which connectors to jumper (I just don't have the pic handy to post). Be careful though, as it won't completely empty the tank and if it's left to run to long, you might over heat the pump and burn it up. So keep a eye on the fuel coming out and if it starts to dwindle off, stop before you burn the pump up.

From the linked post above:

 
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

Apply +12v to the Fuel pump terminal of the ALDL and see if the fuel pump runs. It's not quite 100% but its pretty close. If the fuel pump still doesn't run plan on dropping the tank. You should be able to get a replacement at the local parts store.

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Report this Post05-17-2012 01:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
You can also unplug the relay & jump power to the B connector.
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Report this Post05-17-2012 08:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hzl6cmSend a Private Message to hzl6cmDirect Link to This Post
I went through this a couple of weeks ago, after trying to siphon the fuel by removing the fuel filter, lifting the car up on the lift and trying to start the syphon with a hand vacuum pump and with turning the key to run the pump for a few seconds I tried to jumper the computer terminals and then jumper the wires at the relay. Nothing worked, however the half a tank of fuel still smelled good, even though it was at least 4 years old, so I ended up adding fuel to fill the tank along with a bottle of fuel injector cleaner some fuel stabilizer and a new fuel filter. Then I buttoned everything back up and it wouldn't start because the fuel pump wasn't running. It turned out that somehow I had blown the fuel pump fuse when jumpering the computer connections - you could hear the relay click but the fuel pump wouldn't run. So if jumper doesn't work, check the fuse. However, I also agree with the gut who said if the fuel smells good it may be okay. Since my tank was completely full by the time I found the blown fuse (and since the fuel smelled like gas instead of paint thinner) I just drove it and I haven't had any problems. I ran through that tank of fuel and refilled it and it runs great!
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Report this Post05-17-2012 10:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
If its non ethanol gas it might be good for a year, at a half tank I'd just add fresh to fill it, maybe add Seafoam. Ethanol spoils alot faster, E10 is almost everywhere now.
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Report this Post05-17-2012 12:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchDirect Link to This Post
When I had to drain the tank, to make it lighter for changing the fuel pump, I removed the fuel filter (was going to put in a new one anyway), put a pan under the line that goes to the filter, and applied 12v to ALDL pin G. Fortunately, the old fuel pump still ran good enough to do the job.
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Report this Post05-17-2012 03:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Biggs3000:

Evening Everyone,

My '85 GT has been sitting stationary for months on end with a half tank of fuel and no preservative....so I'd like to empty the whole tank and fill up with a fresh tank of unleaded as I just completed a tune-up and other maintenance.



Are you just bored and looking for something to do?

One of my Fieros sat for six years. The gas smelled rank. I added several gallons of fresh gas, "looped" the fuel line to itself and circulated the gas through the old fuel filter (by using a jumper at the ALDL) for several minutes, then changed the filter and reconnected the fuel line properly. No problems with the old gas in the tank at all.
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Report this Post05-17-2012 10:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Biggs3000Send a Private Message to Biggs3000Direct Link to This Post
Thanks again everyone for the replies!

Gas tank didn't have a favorable aroma, plus I still have to replace the fuel filter so I may just mimic TopNotch and hit two-birds (assuming my fuel pump is still good....).

Prices are higher, but they just don't process gas like they use to
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