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Spongy pedal on 88 brakes, bled twice and still by kazew
Started on: 03-03-2012 11:26 PM
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Last post by: Electrathon on 03-04-2012 10:50 AM
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Report this Post03-03-2012 11:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kazewSend a Private Message to kazewDirect Link to This Post
This was my second time changing the rotors and calipers so I thought no biggie, Its not leaking fluid but so something is different this time. I changed the rotors/calipers last week and bled the system but the pedal goes to far and stopping is poor so I thought there is still air in there somewhere and bled them again today but still the same. I've been looking thru the archive and Ogres cave trying to come up with the solution. I'm thinking the master cylinder since its still original and when you push the brake pedal most of the way down you can hear a mechanicle clunk/click in there somewhere, other things to consider, I had all four calipers off and the system drained completely at the at the master/reservoir, the e-brake needs to be adjusted since I havent used it for years. Any thoughts
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Report this Post03-03-2012 11:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kendallvilleSend a Private Message to kendallvilleDirect Link to This Post
i had the same problem with my 87 changed the master problem solved, was told if it wasnt that it could have been the booster but glad i got it right on the first try.
good luck.
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Report this Post03-03-2012 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for firejo24Send a Private Message to firejo24Direct Link to This Post
It’s very possible that when you bled the brakes you damaged the master cylinder. Because with normal braking, the master cylinder never travels more than a ½ or so, the inside of the cylinder (past the ½ mark) builds up a layer of corrosion. When you bleed the brakes and push the piston (with the seals on it) into this corrosion area it can damage the seals and they will start to leak.
With all of that I would also adjust the rear brakes. To do this correctly you need to back off on the parking brake adjustment, adjust the brake caliper and then re-adjust the parking brake. Also, you should use the parking brake as it keeps the rear brakes adjusted (before releasing the brake, hold you foot and the brake pedal and when you release the P-brake it adjusts the caliper).
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Report this Post03-04-2012 07:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GokartSend a Private Message to GokartDirect Link to This Post
If you still have original rubber lines consider changing to a set of stainless. I too had 88 spongy brakes and it was a world of difference after swapping.
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Report this Post03-04-2012 10:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
This started after you changed calipers, common sence says start there. Your complaint is exactly the complaint if a rear caliper is out of adjustment. It is likely you have a stuck parking brake adjuster or set your park cable too tight.

Easy test is to move the lever on the caliper by hand. If it fully strokes, then the piston adjuster is stiuck. Best to do this test with the park cable loosened.
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