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possible 3800 dipstick/tube length fix for less than 20 bux! by americasfuture2k
Started on: 11-18-2011 07:51 PM
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Report this Post11-18-2011 07:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
yester at pull a part, the camaro i was snagging the bcm from had a 3800 and on that 3800, i noticed the oil dipstick and tube were different from a fwd's. it was longer! GMPD has it priced at $9.10(MSRP price) for the dipstick and the tube isnt priced/listed for sale as i just found out. :/

has anyone tried this?

it can be bent around to work in the fiero... but tape off where the dipstick exits the tube before bending to make sure after the bends its not too short or long so you can maintain accurate oil level reading.

http://www.trademotion.com/...2&displayCatalogid=0

if it hasnt been done, do i get credit for this?
if it has been done, doh! i searched. i swear.

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Report this Post11-18-2011 08:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NiterrorzSend a Private Message to NiterrorzDirect Link to This Post
heres a pic of the end of my 3800 dip stick it looks just like a flared 3/8 brake line why not just make a custom length one with a flaring kit?

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Report this Post11-21-2011 10:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
there is more to it than just a flared end. dont want this to come off in the wrong way, but do you know the exact measurements for the dipstick to stick far enough down into the oil pan to get an accurate reading of oil level? because i sure dont and if it was common knowledge, im sure someone would have done it by now, either told how to make one or offer some for sale. also, you would need a dipstick that is the right length.

a 3800 f-body that already has a longer oil tube and dipstick would the much easier way to go about this.

also, bump.
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Report this Post11-22-2011 01:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
Fill up the crankcase till the oil level is correct on the old dipstick, then put your new dipstick in and see if it's reading at full.
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Report this Post11-22-2011 01:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JumpStartSend a Private Message to JumpStartDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by phonedawgz:

Fill up the crankcase till the oil level is correct on the old dipstick, then put your new dipstick in and see if it's reading at full.


Just what I was about to say. Also still thinking about using a cable instead so it would go in and out easier.

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Report this Post11-22-2011 06:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
theres an easier way of doing this, ill demonstrate with pics later.
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Report this Post11-23-2011 02:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MulletproofMonkClick Here to visit MulletproofMonk's HomePageSend a Private Message to MulletproofMonkDirect Link to This Post
I think I have a spare tube and stick... Because I mangled mine the first time I was adjusting it and bent it... Only way to be sure would be measuring them straightened out...

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Report this Post11-23-2011 09:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofan25Send a Private Message to fierofan25Direct Link to This Post
what about somthing like this. Not a cheap fix, but it might be an easy fix.Thanks


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lok...&hash=item5ae3a053b0
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Report this Post11-23-2011 10:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Bat City FierosClick Here to visit Bat City Fieros's HomePageSend a Private Message to Bat City FierosDirect Link to This Post
yes they have been putting the lokars on the cars on clubgt for a while. kinda expensive.

the whole deal is to relocate it to a better spot. I would think longer than the one in your link.

Grab one from a dodge truck. it has a wire and is long, could be a good starting place.
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Report this Post11-23-2011 02:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
Im going to get the right dipstick later today hopefully so I can demonstrate my idea.
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Report this Post11-23-2011 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ricreatrSend a Private Message to ricreatrDirect Link to This Post
what do you guys think is the "right" level?

the race guys lower the oil level to get it farther from the crank.
course, you dont want to decrease capacity...

my point is, i think you should fill your crankcase to the level that will work best, then mark your level for future fills.

at that price, i think i will have to try one too. thanks for the tip!
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Report this Post11-23-2011 09:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
Didn't get finished in time today, so friday ill hafta get the dipstick.

I do have a too long dipstick that I could demonstrate with if I get time to tonight.
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Report this Post11-23-2011 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JustinbartSend a Private Message to JustinbartDirect Link to This Post
I put 6qt in mine. I lost a motor from starvation at a circle track. The next engine I noticed that when I took hard left turns my oil pressure would drop. Put a little extra oil in it and everything is fine now.

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Report this Post12-24-2011 12:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post


if you have a 3800sc swap then you know how much of a PITA it is to check the oil. I have solved that problem with a longer dipstick/oil tube from another 3800 car, the 4th gen F-Body! This one is from a '99.

It had to be bent strait then bent to the right curvature so the dipstick doesn't bind when replacing it.
I cut the bracket off the stock 3800sc oil tube and welded it in position of the new dipstick.

And wallah! I can easily check the oil from the drivers side when filling up or if I feel up to it, reaching over the trunk and the engine to pull it out. Much easier than having to reach down the firewall and too close to the headers!



more pictures will be up tomorrow once i get the motor in the car.

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Report this Post12-24-2011 12:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ALJRSend a Private Message to ALJRDirect Link to This Post
Interesting!
Wouldn't happen to have a p/n for the parts?

BTW, now you have to relocate your coil packs Thats gonna interfear with your decklid hinge, no?
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Report this Post12-24-2011 12:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for americasfuture2kSend a Private Message to americasfuture2kDirect Link to This Post
It's not available from GM anymore, so digging up a part number is pointless as I see it :\
I got the tube from Pull A Part and the dipstick was of course gone so I had to pay a lot for it from a camaro/f-bird/vette/mustang scraper.

I'll find out in the next hour or so if it does. Last test fit, only the torsion rod hit the coils.

Also to add, not all f-body 3800s are the same. Newer ones had different exhaust manifolds so a different (shorter) oil tube was used.

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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

Also to add, not all f-body 3800s are the same. Newer ones had different exhaust manifolds so a different (shorter) oil tube was used.



Thats why I asked about the p/n... Did a quick search and the couple I found looked short; simmilar to the GP tubes...
Although your oil tube mod works and looks good, if the parts are discontinued, kinda makes it a not so viable solution

About your coil packs, I would just relocate them. Its so much easier to put them somewhere else; rather then dealing with the decklid junk... There are so many good solutions /locations for the packs it just make more sence...
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