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Body work question by labbe001
Started on: 10-09-2011 05:58 PM
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Report this Post10-09-2011 05:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for labbe001Send a Private Message to labbe001Direct Link to This Post
I'm in the process of sanding down my car and preping for paint. In doing so, i'm trying to remove a pin stripe that was applied to the car by the po. i initially tried just pulling it work. this did not work at all. i decided to try to sand it off. in doing this, it left some scratches that i feel would show back through the paint if i did not fill them some how. I was thinking of doing one of these three things: 1.) skim coat of vette panel adhesive/filler 2.) use "Icing" glaze to fill them or 3.) Use a high build primer and sand it down smooth. Which one of these do you guys feel would be the best way to fill these scratches. Also, is there a better alternative than these three?
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Report this Post10-09-2011 06:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
I would use a high build primer and sand it.
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As usual, more info needed. What grit scratches? Can you sand them out (are they just in the paint)?
For future reference, tape stripes can be taken off with an eraser wheel.
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Report this Post10-09-2011 07:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for labbe001Send a Private Message to labbe001Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Tha Driver:

As usual, more info needed. What grit scratches? Can you sand them out (are they just in the paint)?
For future reference, tape stripes can be taken off with an eraser wheel.
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80grit scratches....i know i can sand these out using 180, 220 and so on before i paint but didn't want to sand so much that i create low spots....i'm painting back to the original metallic blue and want to avoid low spots at all costs. i sanded through the factory primer in some spots and can feel the roughness of the raw material.....i'm sure the scratches would come out w/ a "dusting" of high build primer but didn't know if it was ok to use high build primer on RRIM since it is flexible....

eraser wheel? may have to invest in one of these since the stripe is all the way around the car....
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Report this Post10-10-2011 01:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
Hi-build or PPG epoxy will work fine to fill 80 grit scratches. If you use epoxy (I like to use that first anyway for best adhesion), let it dry for several days before wet sanding.
EDIT: make sure all the stripe glue is off of it by wiping it down with lacquer thinner or other compatible solvent.
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Report this Post10-10-2011 11:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
I use primer to fill #80 scratches every day, especially in body filler. Be good if you did go back over the area with 120 or 100 (or even 320) though. I usually take stripes off with a single edge razor blade scraper held almost flat to surface, like shaving. Then either thinner to take off the glue, or an eraser wheel...depending on how much is there. When you sand the primer, use at least a pad or block to eliminate the lines. If you dont the 'ghost images' of the removed stripes will reappear in the new paint after a few weeks. This happens even on metal bodies when theyre stripped to bare metal. They will show more prominently on darker colors.
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Report this Post10-10-2011 01:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for redraifSend a Private Message to redraifDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Tha Driver:

Hi-build or PPG epoxy will work fine to fill 80 grit scratches. If you use epoxy (I like to use that first anyway for best adhesion), let it dry for several days before wet sanding.
EDIT: make sure all the stripe glue is off of it by wiping it down with lacquer thinner or other compatible solvent.
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I second this! In extreme cases I have heard of people using a skim coat of bondo to work as a "fast build" solution for DEEP scratches or gouges

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Report this Post10-10-2011 02:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Lou6t4gtoSend a Private Message to Lou6t4gtoDirect Link to This Post
"Evercoat" spot putty.
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Report this Post10-12-2011 10:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 5150fauxarriClick Here to visit 5150fauxarri's HomePageSend a Private Message to 5150fauxarriDirect Link to This Post
If your not that expirienced with body work I would just stick with the thick primer. It will do the job and is the most user friendly.
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Report this Post10-13-2011 12:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
Allways remember,when useing sand paper rub the 2 pieces togeter,quickley to remove the surface tension on the new sand paper (allso remember that not all sand paper is the same,there are some variations in the Grit,even though you might buy the same grit as befor).
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Report this Post10-13-2011 02:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ReallybigSend a Private Message to ReallybigDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Indiana_resto_guy:

I would use a high build primer and sand it.


Amen!
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