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limited slip differential for Getrag 5 spd by cam-a-lot
Started on: 09-19-2011 03:39 PM
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Report this Post09-19-2011 03:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotDirect Link to This Post
I recently went for a spin in a 3800 SC Fiero that apparently had a limited slip differential installed. The owner claims much better traction than without it, so I am surprised that this topic has not come up here lately.

any opinions? Is this worth looking into? I was told it was around $500, plus install...new syncros, etc.. Might as well look for an F23 for that kind of money

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Report this Post09-19-2011 05:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:
any opinions? Is this worth looking into? I was told it was around $500, plus install...new syncros, etc


I think you're going to pay a bit more than that... the cheapest LSD by itself will likely run just under that (a Team Green LSD). You start getting into the better ones like EP and you're looking at $500-$600 + start price just for the LSD.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 05:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
I've got an EP LSD in my Getrag.
All I know is that it stuck like glue during this past weekend's RFTH. I tried several times to get it to break loose.
All it did was take a quick hop to the side, dig in and go.

If you do a Getrag, do the later one. (90-91 or later) The diff is a little sturdier than the earlier (Fiero) tranny.
Mine is the 93 vintage with the hydraulic release bearing. I am really very happy with how it adapted.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 05:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
I believe that there is a limited slip HD Getrag differential made by Quaife Engineering http://www.quaife.co.uk/
This company has a reputation for making very strong drivetrain components. I believe that a few Fiero owners have used it. Check it out.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 05:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JustinbartSend a Private Message to JustinbartDirect Link to This Post
Never needed it.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 07:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
I know the Quaife was only available in a select few Quad 4 Getrags.
I suspect that you couldn't find one now to save your life.
It's probably out of production or made of Unobtainium.
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Report this Post09-19-2011 07:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for lateFormulaSend a Private Message to lateFormulaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by cam-a-lot:
Might as well look for an F23 for that kind of money


If you want a limted slip differential, and you're willing to do a trans swap, then start hunting the salvage yards for either a late model Cobalt or HHR SS model. The SS models that were equipped with the LNF engine and F23 five speed all came from the factory with an LSD.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 07:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wftbSend a Private Message to wftbDirect Link to This Post
cobalt ss super and turbo models and HHR ss turbo(did that one ever have the supercharged motor?) came with the f35 trans .this tranny incorporates a jackshaft setup for axles that are the right length for the fiero and will bolt up to fiero hubs .the LSD i think is a torsen unit but it was an option .not too easy to find .
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Report this Post09-19-2011 10:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JustinbartSend a Private Message to JustinbartDirect Link to This Post
I believe that OBX makes a LSD for the F23 trans for $300. But you still don't need it in a fiero.

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Report this Post09-19-2011 10:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Justinbart:
I believe that OBX makes a LSD for the F23 trans for $300. But you still don't need it in a fiero.


You should add that you're concerned with straight lines.

Once we've modded our cars with stiffer rear springs and rear swaybars, unloading the inside rear wheel in turns becomes more of an issue.
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Report this Post09-19-2011 11:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ckrummySend a Private Message to ckrummyDirect Link to This Post
Mine spins both tires and drifts around without a problem, i've done several autocross events and have never had the inside tire pick up and spin on me, i think an lsd would just be a waste of money unless you going for a drag car and in that case i would buy a spool. Not trying to flame just my $0.02
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Report this Post09-19-2011 11:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JustinbartSend a Private Message to JustinbartDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:


You should add that you're concerned with straight lines.

Once we've modded our cars with stiffer rear springs and rear swaybars, unloading the inside rear wheel in turns becomes more of an issue.


I do much more than straight line. I have stiffer rear springs and swaybars. I have done circle track spectator drags. The back would come around without issues with 245/45 17's Azenis on all four corners. I now have a very tame drag radial on the rear which balances the car out better with more grip.

I could see a problem if you have broken down sloppy suspension and shitty tires. Then you are just addressing the symptoms and not fixing the problem.
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Report this Post09-19-2011 11:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Justinbart:
I do much more than straight line. I have stiffer rear springs and swaybars. I have done circle track spectator drags. The back would come around without issues with 245/45 17's Azenis on all four corners. I now have a very tame drag radial on the rear which balances the car out better with more grip.

I could see a problem if you have broken down sloppy suspension and shitty tires. Then you are just addressing the symptoms and not fixing the problem.


Mine did it with mid-grade 225/45R17 BFGoodrich g-force sport tires.

When I went to "decent" 245/40R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 tires, well, these just stick.
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Report this Post09-20-2011 12:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JustinbartSend a Private Message to JustinbartDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:


Mine did it with mid-grade 225/45R17 BFGoodrich g-force sport tires.

When I went to "decent" 245/40R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 tires, well, these just stick.


So maybe what we can get from this is that a little extra spent on tires could save you from spending the money on a LSD. Tires will provide greater performance enhancements over an LSD in more situations.

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Report this Post09-20-2011 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Justinbart:
So maybe what we can get from this is that a little extra spent on tires could save you from spending the money on a LSD. Tires will provide greater performance enhancements over an LSD in more situations.


If you have to pick one or the other, then yes.
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