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'88 3800SC Swap Thoughts by Bwhit12
Started on: 08-04-2011 04:46 PM
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Report this Post08-04-2011 04:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
I am looking into a 88 GT body. I have posted before interested in doing the 3800SC swap into the '84, but are there any major differences in doing the 3800SC swap into the '88? Will I have to do anything special for this year? If it is just as easier, if not easier I may go with this year and just buy the '84 to have on the side.

The pros for getting the '88 ($1000) are:

5 speed Getrag
No Cradle change
Nicer body style

Pros for the '84 (Less than $500):

Dirt Cheap
Walk across the street to pick it up
Clean Body from what I can tell
Runs great

Would like a little input!

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Report this Post08-04-2011 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CarrollesSend a Private Message to CarrollesDirect Link to This Post
Don't forget that the 88 has better suspension, better brakes, better headlight motors, rear swaybar, already has 15 inch wheels.
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Report this Post08-04-2011 07:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
Those are things I like to hear!
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Report this Post08-04-2011 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
No engine swap is easy no matter what anyone here tells you. So get the best car to do it. An 88 is much better investment and will get much more money back in case you may need to sell in the future.
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Report this Post08-04-2011 08:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
I've done engine swaps so its nothing new to me. There will always be complication, but knowledge wise its easy enough.
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Report this Post08-04-2011 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
84's are the most difficult to do a swap, the wiring is totally different and not well documented. I have done 2 84 3800's now and they are frustrating. 88's have the updated brakes and suspension, but replacement parts are harder to get and cost a lot more. But I would go for the 88 over the 84 !
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Report this Post08-04-2011 09:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIEROFLYERSend a Private Message to FIEROFLYERDirect Link to This Post
88 Fieros have a little less room due to the upper struts being in closer and when mounting the engine low watch out for the axle shaft boot clamps hitting the brackets for the lower suspension other then that the 87 and 88's are easier due to one less heater hose needed.
Wiring wise the 85 to 88 are pretty much identical and the 84's just need the C500 relocated further to the driver's side for clearance of the exhaust manifold. Dan
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Report this Post08-04-2011 10:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hnthompsSend a Private Message to hnthompsDirect Link to This Post
Fiero Flyer is correct about the slightly lessened room between the strut towers on an 88. However, you can get a very nice looking installation in the 88. I have a 3800 SC Series III in a 1988 GT that looks very nice (IMHO).



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Report this Post08-04-2011 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
Looks great! You guys have me excited! Me and a buddy got the integra running and about ready to sell. Hopefully I will have it sold in the next couple of weeks.
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Report this Post08-04-2011 11:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
Nothing about the 84 fiero would worry me over the 88....

The 88s will have the better "street" rear suspension giving it a bit better manners day to day... The 88s also come with what I consider to be more than enough brakes..
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Report this Post08-05-2011 08:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
Maybe I will just buy both of them. The 84 is probably only going to run me a few hundred bucks. I'm sure if I ran into issues I could sell/ part it out and make money off of it with no problem. I mean it does have a running 4 cylinder in it. It just needs the brakes redone from sitting so long.
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Report this Post08-05-2011 08:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1fatcatSend a Private Message to 1fatcatDirect Link to This Post
I would leave the 84. You could sink a lot into the brakes and end up just breaking even when you sell it. The 84's seem to sell for a lot less than 85 and up.
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Report this Post08-05-2011 09:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Bwhit12Send a Private Message to Bwhit12Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 1fatcat:

I would leave the 84. You could sink a lot into the brakes and end up just breaking even when you sell it. The 84's seem to sell for a lot less than 85 and up.


It's just crappy seeing an old car, that was only made from 84-88, sit there and waste away. Someday these things will be worth something. Especially a completely original one. There were just under 400,000 of them made (If my sources are right). I wonder how many are left now? With wrecks, careless car owners, and other factors I bet a good amount have seen the junkyard over the past 20 years.
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