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Distributor 'gap' question. Rebuild or replace? by broderp
Started on: 07-19-2011 06:29 PM
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Report this Post07-19-2011 06:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for broderpSend a Private Message to broderpDirect Link to This Post

Here is my distributor:




The rotating part on a few of the little splines makes contact with the stationary 'fins'. I was told by the local autoparts store that they should not and there should be an air gap. I used emry cloth on the shaft and its all really shiny and smooth. I had no issues taking the assembly apart.

Assuming this is correct, what should the gap be? I'm toying with the idea of sand blasting or taking a wire wheel and dremel to clean this one up and resetting the gaps. (the touching may also be due to the rust, its not THAT bad)

I also believe the one from Autozone ($130) looks more like this:


Is this any better than the stock one? I can rebuild for under $50. Is it worth the expense?

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Report this Post07-19-2011 06:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Direct Link to This Post
The 'gap' required is not that critical. Assuming your shaft bearing is tight and there is no wobble, get some pliers and bend the lower tabs so they miss the spinning ones. Rust is even less critical....all Fieros seem to have it.

Edit:....I like that 'Warranty is void if module is removed' sticker....

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Report this Post07-19-2011 06:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
The Autozone pic you have is of a later design distributor.
If it were me, I'd just replace the distributor. That's what I did when mine went bad. I had to pull it anyway, so I just replaced it.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 06:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Rust doesn't affect the magnetic properties of the star wheel. However, cracks in the magnet that's sandwiched in there can, though not always, mess up the ignition properties a bit. If the car runs fine, just bend the ears so that there's the smallest gap with no contact and you'll be fine.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 07:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
This is an A1 Cardone 30-1633 unit. Around $100.00 at RockAuto.com. I put one in my engine last month.

-Joe

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Report this Post07-19-2011 08:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
They clearly look better de-rusted and cleaned up. De-rusting them won't make them work any better however.

On the pick up use a paperclip to 'depin' one of the metal connectors out of the plastic shell. Then twist the wires together to shorten them. Then slip the pin back into the plastic connector. Then your pick up coil wires won't get caught in the distributor cap. If you look at the distributor above, it is destined to FAIL over time. With the distributor installed in the engine, it's hard to see down there. Much less it is hard to keep the pick up wires from getting pinched in the cap. Clearly the above distributor will have that happen. Then over time the pinched wire will short out and that Fiero will fail to run. My pick up coil had the excessively long leads also. Applying the twist to them makes them stay in place naturally.

Check for lateral movement in the shaft bushings. If minimal then clean it up and it should preform great. A check for the magnets is to attach a volt meter to the leads of the pick up coil. You should read 1v AC when rotating the shaft at 'cranking' speeds

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Report this Post07-19-2011 08:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
I put in a Cardone distributor in my 88 GT. I used a junk one for core and kept the old one for a backup. I'm thinking of getting one for my 87 GT. The innards of the distributors usually get a lot of corrosion but still work. After 25 years I replaced it a decade or more ago with no real issues.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 08:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Old Lar:

I put in a Cardone distributor in my 88 GT. I used a junk one for core and kept the old one for a backup. I'm thinking of getting one for my 87 GT. The innards of the distributors usually get a lot of corrosion but still work. After 25 years I replaced it a decade or more ago with no real issues.


The Cardone ICM working ok? I havent put my engine back in the car yet, and plan on doing the wire twist as PD explained above after work tomorrow.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for broderpSend a Private Message to broderpDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Formula88:

The Autozone pic you have is of a later design distributor.
If it were me, I'd just replace the distributor. That's what I did when mine went bad. I had to pull it anyway, so I just replaced it.


I compared the two side by side. There is a night and day difference. The 'new' one felt smoother, and I could feel the magnetism as I rotated it. I will be buying it this weekend. (I'm little short on cash at the moment, but they are holding it for me.)

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Report this Post07-20-2011 11:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for broderpSend a Private Message to broderpDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Old Lar:
........I used a junk one for core and kept the old one for a backup........


^^Excellent idea...

Anyone in the Dayton Ohio area have a junk one I could have as a core?
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Report this Post07-20-2011 11:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
If your old distributor isn't good enough to use today, do you think it will be good enough to use sometime later?

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+1

watch out for fuzzy thinking......that's how my garage ended up full of junk.
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Report this Post07-20-2011 12:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for broderpSend a Private Message to broderpDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by phonedawgz:

If your old distributor isn't good enough to use today, do you think it will be good enough to use sometime later?


 
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Originally posted by Gall757:

+1

watch out for fuzzy thinking......that's how my garage ended up full of junk.


Agreed. Issue resolved.

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Report this Post07-20-2011 01:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
The old one worked, but last year I was planning on the Power Tour 2010 in the 88 and I did not want any issues to happen on that road trip. In my parts box that I take with me, I keep the old distributor, coil, rotor, cap, module,
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Originally posted by josef644:





The pickups are Delco D1907



If these were a "factory" unit - what cars to check at the wreckers for these??


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So, do the newer styled distributors use the same pick up coil, module, rotor button, and cap as the older ones ?
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Originally posted by Rocky Top:

So, do the newer styled distributors use the same pick up coil, module, rotor button, and cap as the older ones ?


Module, rotor and cap for sure. Not sure about the pickup.

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Originally posted by phonedawgz:
If your old distributor isn't good enough to use today, do you think it will be good enough to use sometime later?


It makes a good priming tool!
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Report this Post09-04-2011 07:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlackEmraldSend a Private Message to BlackEmraldDirect Link to This Post
I was having tons of trouble getting my car to start at one point. I finally ended up pulling the distributor and changing the pickup and what a night and day difference. I also used some emery cloth to clean the rotating part and it looks good as new and more importantly it WORKS good as new! I haven't had any issues starting it since.
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