The 86 GT I recently bought is coming along nicesly, the list of problems is getting shorter. Now on to the other Fiero in my life.
I have inherited a Lambo Countach kit car built on a GT (87 I thank, don't have the title in my hand) and hope that maybe some of you can shed some light on. The car, pic attached, is 99% finished and lacks only the door seals and few other items. My dad was an aircraft mechanic for 50 years and when he built something, it was usually done correctly. The car was built in the Houston area and I have found that there was/is a company, Easton Armstrong Engineering that made Contach kits that used the Fiero as a basis. My questions are:
Any of you know anything about their kits
and
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to what this thing my be worth.
My sister has driven the car a few years back and said that other than the door seals not being installed it drove very nicely.
Anyone got any info on the company or how to tell if it is in fact one of their kits?
------------------ Mike Allen Attic of the Alamo
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It appears to be a non-stretched Fiero kit similar to the 5000s kits. The car is worth less then the properly stretched Lambo kits. It is a beautiful car though. The kits usually range from 3-5 thousand dollars. Add that to the price of the car and you can maybe get 8-10 thousand for the car.
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Mike Allen Member
Posts: 122 From: San Antonio, Tx Registered: Jun 2011
Before he died, I thought he mentioned that it was stretched, but not being familiar with these things I won't know till I can look over the car closer. Back when I first saw it in December, of '10 the only thing I thought of was, wow, what a waste of another car that GM killed just when they got it right. Of course no one knew that my dad only had only 6 months to live.
Mike, several things I see here. First, that is not a stretched chassis. The 4" stretch is done in front of the rear wheels and pushes the doors forward as well as elongates the roof somewhat. Here's mine, it's a non stretched version:
Second, I was not aware that Armstrong made a non stretch kit. I am however aware of their upscale stretched versions. Here is an Armstrong car:
Note the distance of the side NACA duct from the rear wheel flair. That is the correct stretch for an accurate wheelbase replica. You have what appears to be a Euroworks Mirage K.
It can still make a great car even without the stretch, the body on yours appears very similar to mine. The major difference is that mine has two reat hatches, one for the engine and a seperate one behind that for a small dedicated trunk. Also, I have a hidden fuel filler where yours is right there in the fender as well mine having a full lambo interior. The value of the car depends so much on the quality of the build and the degree of modification that accompanies it. I see them for as little a 12K with a basic clean body (finished) and no interior or engine mods, I see them decked out with a full Lamboghini replica interior and other upgrades going for 20K and up from there. Exotic illusions has built many of these in non stretched form and charged upwards of $55K. I don't see Demetrios getting that kind of dough for a non strectch version, but his work is top notch and commands higher than average prices. I think that if yours gets finished out and looks clean, expect a value of roughly 12-14K.
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Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
The 86 GT I recently bought is coming along nicesly, the list of problems is getting shorter. Now on to the other Fiero in my life.
I have inherited a Lambo Countach kit car built on a GT (87 I thank, don't have the title in my hand) and hope that maybe some of you can shed some light on. The car, pic attached, is 99% finished and lacks only the door seals and few other items. My dad was an aircraft mechanic for 50 years and when he built something, it was usually done correctly. The car was built in the Houston area and I have found that there was/is a company, Easton Armstrong Engineering that made Contach kits that used the Fiero as a basis. My questions are:
Any of you know anything about their kits
and
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to what this thing my be worth.
My sister has driven the car a few years back and said that other than the door seals not being installed it drove very nicely.
Anyone got any info on the company or how to tell if it is in fact one of their kits?
If you care anything about your father, keep it. It meant something to him and when you look at it it will be a reminder of him. If you don't care, take the money.
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Mike Allen Member
Posts: 122 From: San Antonio, Tx Registered: Jun 2011
I was just guessing on who made it, thought it was coincidence that the company was in Houston where he lived. I'll see what else I can find when it actually is over here.
As far as remembering him, I'll keep the fully restored 47 Ercoupe I flew back to San Antonio last week.
Not the actual plane, don't have any in-flight pics yet.
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Jul 5th, 2011
Indiana_resto_guy Member
Posts: 7158 From: Shelbyville, IN USA Registered: Jul 2000
I almost got one of those back in the early 70s. They were going for around $2500 then and were about the cheapest tricycle gear plane I could find. If I remember right they are stall proof by limiting the elevator movement. Unless I'm confusing them with the canard design. They cost a lot more now huh?
Also worthy of mention, if you're over 6' tall you are going to have problems getting in and out as well as driving confortably unless a lowered floor pan is installed. I'm 5'11" and my head grazes the headliner while driving.
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That car may be from the company below who is in San Angelo although, someone I know said that the guy who owns it has some health issues and was trying to sell the company. I talked to the guy about a year ago and he said that he bought the company from up North but I don`t remember the original name.
Not sure about the San Angelo company, this car has differences from all the companies I've seen, but I guess since it's a kit there will be different. Here are a few more pics I found on another camera card. One reason I don't have very good pics of the car is my distaste for most kit cars. I rank most of them right up there with chest hair, gold chains and white belt/shoe combos. Personally I think it was a waste of a good Fiero GT.
One reason for the clutter was this project next to it that, thank goodness, my dad never got to finish.
Yes, that's a trike with a Mark VIII Lincoln engine in the front.
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Jul 12th, 2011
Mike Allen Member
Posts: 122 From: San Antonio, Tx Registered: Jun 2011
Anyone know of a company that did these kits in Louisiana? My sister said that's were he went to get it, but he might have just bought it from someone who live there. Who knows.
The main reason I am asking is that it would be nice to be able to tell potential buyers who made the kit. Anyone know common areas where an ID tags may have been glassed in to a panel?
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TXGOOD Member
Posts: 5410 From: Austin, Texas Registered: Feb 2006
I think that Euroworks Exotics had a plant in Louisiana or a warehouse. It says on their website FOB from New York for the Countach but I remember a while back seeing it said FOB from New Orleans and I remember thinking if I ever got one of these kits, being from Texas I wouldn`t have far to go to get it.
Edit: Now that I compare these two pictures, I would almost have to say it`s a Euroworks Exotics Countach. You can see how the scoop ends and the little raised part right before the louvers start. The deck is different, but they might have had a design change somewhere within the years, and the small piece that is right above the rear window I believe gets bolted on.
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Mike Allen Member
Posts: 122 From: San Antonio, Tx Registered: Jun 2011
Yeah, that raised portion on the engine cover is what throws me. I'll try to call them tomorrow and see if they molded in their name or an ID tag anyplace on the body. Thanks for taking a second look at the pics and noticing that raised area just going into the louvers.
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Jul 19th, 2011
25thCountach Member
Posts: 121 From: Orlando Florida Registered: Mar 2010
I'm leaning to Mac Autobody, it was not far from where he lived when he got the kit. Looked at some pics of their work and one of the ones in primer looks a LOT like this one. No side strakes and the engine cover is flat.