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Why car Speedometer show 25mph when car is turn off and the key is removed ? by wschauchulis
Started on: 05-19-2011 10:03 PM
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Report this Post05-19-2011 10:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wschauchulisSend a Private Message to wschauchulisDirect Link to This Post
Why does my car Speedometer show 25mph when my car is turn off and the key
is removed?

When I start my car and the cars is just idling the Speedometer show 0-MPH.
when the car is moveing it does show the wright xx-MPH, and the tachometer works


There are no other symptoms that I can see

Any ideas ?????

is it a bad Speedometer
becouse as I start the car when the key is first in and turn to run the Speedometer show 0-MPH
then when I go to start the car it turns off the power to the radio and the Speedometer show 25-mph once more?
when the car is started and just idling the Speedometer show 0-MPH.
so I think when there is no power to the Speedometer it show 25-mph

the Speedometer needle was once removed and put back on. could it been put in the wrong place?
my Speed on the road seemed right to me
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Report this Post05-19-2011 10:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Gall757Send a Private Message to Gall757Direct Link to This Post
Welcome to the Forum! You have found one of the things that make Fieros special.....most of the gauges are influenced by magnetic fields when they are off, and where they point means nothing....There must be some wiring or something around your speedometer that is making this happen....did you put a magnet in your dashboard?

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Report this Post05-19-2011 10:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MeAndMyFiSend a Private Message to MeAndMyFiDirect Link to This Post
I assume you have the 85mph dash its typical for it to just land around the 25mph zone when you turn the key off. Also the tach normally sits in its last position normally aswell till you put the key to the on position then they go to 0. Nothins wrong I assume as I had a 2m4 that did exactly that and it never gave me a problem. If the dash was pulled apart double check the wiring connector that goes on the left hand side and make sure its plugged in all the way if not it might make it bounce around when cranking.
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Report this Post05-20-2011 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Before '86, most GM cars did not have "return to zero" gauges. In the Fiero, they only started installing them with the newer back-lit clusters. I'm guessing your car is an '84 or an '85.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

Before '86, most GM cars did not have "return to zero" gauges. In the Fiero, they only started installing them with the newer back-lit clusters. I'm guessing your car is an '84 or an '85.


You could hook the gauge power supply to constant instead of switched to get the effect, but you could see where that could be detrimental to the battery over a period of time...
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Report this Post05-20-2011 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Mechanical speedometers have a magnet spun by the speedometer cable sitting inside a steel bell-shaped dome. The faster the magnet spins the more the dome is "dragged" along by eddy currents induced by the magnet. The bell is on one end of a shaft and the needle on the other. In between there's a coil spring wrapped around the shaft that resists the turning force by the dome. When the car stops the cable stops spinning and the spring brings the needle back to the zero peg.

The Fiero speedometer uses what's called an "air core" meter movement. This consists of a needle on a shaft and a magnet on the other end of the shaft. The needle and shaft assembly is free-floating, there's no return spring. To move the needle there are two magnetic windings 90° apart that the magnet sits in. As you vary the current through the two windings the needle moves. There's a chip that drives the two windings, each getting a varying amount of current so that the combined magnetic fields move the needle's magnet to any given position. It's done this way rather than with a cable because a speedometer cable would have to be nearly 10' long to get from the transmission to the instrument cluster. An electronic speedometer has the added benefits of being more reliable, more accurate, and less costly to manufacture.

Edit to add: Because there's no return spring, the needles are free-floating and without power to the coils the needles wind up at random positions based on their weight distribution and friction on the needle shaft. In other words, it's supposed to work that way.

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Originally posted by Bloozberry:

I'm guessing your car is an '84 or an '85.


Yup. Same problem with my '84 Indy.

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Report this Post05-20-2011 04:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SourmugSend a Private Message to SourmugDirect Link to This Post
Cuz they look fast just standing still...

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