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Correct tire size for factory aluminum wheels? by John N
Started on: 05-10-2011 10:33 PM
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I have a set of four original aluminum wheels (turbine I think they may be called) off of a 1984, they probably the most common on the Fireos. They are at power spray right new being sandblasted and powder coated and then going to put mount new tires and install them on my 1987 SE.

What I would like to know is what is the correct tire for this 14" wheel? On my driver 84 there is no two tires alike and I cannot make out what's on the label on the side of the door.

I would like the correct size for the best handling.

Many thanks,

John Niekamp

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I am fairly certain they came with 195/70R14 on those wheels but I am not 100% sure
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My '84 had the sport gearing, and was built with 215/60R14 tires. I can prove that. These days, you can get that size only from BFGoodrich. Or maybe some obscure, local, off-brand.
I don't like how the BFG Radial T/A handles on a strut-style suspension, but it handles great on a double-control-arm suspension. Best pricing is from www.tirerack.com.
A 215/60R14 isn't very tall, so it doesn't fill the wheelwells very well, especially the rears, which are larger.
I've seen claims of other years being built with 205/60R14s but have yet to see any evidence.

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I went and checked the door sticker of my 85 that came with the wheels you are asking about - it says 195/70R14 is the correct size

if you still have your sticker on the driver's side front fender well (inside the front compartment) it will tell you exactly what came on your car. The codes are:

QDX P195/70R14 black wall, steel-belted (85-87)
QDY P195/70R14 white-lettered, steel-belted (85-87)
QFE P185/75R14 black wall, steel-belted (86-88)
QFG P185/75R14 white-lettered, steel-belted (86-87)
QPU P215/60R14 black wall, steel-belted (84-87)


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Originally posted by RobbyH:

I went and checked the door sticker of my 85 that came with the wheels you are asking about - it says 195/70R14 is the correct size

if you still have your sticker on the driver's side front fender well (inside the front compartment) it will tell you exactly what came on your car. The codes are:

QDX P195/70R14 black wall, steel-belted (85-87)
QDY P195/70R14 white-lettered, steel-belted (85-87)
QFE P185/75R14 black wall, steel-belted (86-88)
QFG P185/75R14 white-lettered, steel-belted (86-87)
QPU P215/60R14 black wall, steel-belted (84-87)


Robby



Wow thanks Robby for going that extra mile for me. My door sticker is really faded on both of the Fieros. However the one on the 87 has stamped out steel rims, (the reason I want the aluminum wheels) so what ever that label says would be narrower and that size would look way stupid on the wider aluminum rims.

Again, I greatly appreciate you taking the time and checking your label out!

John

PS: I will check that sticker out under the hood on my 84, I know it's still legible

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Sure thing - I pulled those codes from an old source I had so can't take much credit for it other than being able to find it on my laptop
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Standard tires in 84 were 185/80R13, optional was 215/60R14. I don't think any other sizes were used in 84, at least not that I've ever been aware. The 195/70R14 were on some later models, but I don't think 84 offered them.
I searched for the BFG T/A Radial P215/60R14 for an 84SE about a year ago. That size wasn't easy to find, but when I finally got it, the manufacturing date was recent so I think they might still be in (very low) production. Frustrating how hard they are to get, last time I bought tires for that car (10 years ago) every tire store had them sitting on the shelf.
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Report this Post05-11-2011 11:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierologySend a Private Message to FierologyDirect Link to This Post
I bought 215/65/R14 Yokohama's last year for my '84. I found them on Tirerack. Handling is great.

-Michael

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FYI, "turbine" wheels are the ones on the car in the picture below:

They were only offered in 84. The more common 14" aluminum wheels found on Fieros are called "High Tech" wheels.
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Ah so I stand corrected, thank you Topnotch

Here are what the wheels look like from my salvaged 84, and the ones that I will be putting on my 1987.




The code I found on the inner fender on my driver 1984 was QPV I don't see that code.

The code I found on my 1987 with them ugly factory steel wheels was QFE (185/75R14)

SO I think the tires I will buy for the 14" aluminum wheels will be the P195/70R14 tires.

Would this be a good choice? It also looks like Wal-mart can order them in for a decent price of 57 bucks.

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Originally posted by John N:
SO I think the tires I will buy for the 14" aluminum wheels will be the P195/70R14 tires.

Would this be a good choice? It also looks like Wal-mart can order them in for a decent price of 57 bucks.

John


http://www.fierosails.com/OptionCodes.html
 
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QPV P215/60R14 white-lettered, steel-belted ('84-85)


Looked at a picture of my 84SE RPO tag, and mine had the same code.
Personally, I'd get the 215/60, but that size definitely has to be ordered and costs about double the $57. The advantage of 195/70 is that they're cheaper and easier to find on-demand, or at least I thought so. I'm surprised WalMart needs to order them, I thought lots of more recent cars use that size.
Really the choice comes down to economy vs performance - the 195/70 will certainly cost less, be easier to replace in an emergency, and should slightly help gas mileage. But if you're shopping for handling then I'd order the 215/60 BFG's.

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i have a 87 GT on stock wheels and they are 185/65r15.
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Originally posted by badboyfiero7:

i have a 87 GT on stock wheels and they are 185/65r15.


And they are incorrectly sized... 15x7 inch diamond lace wheels are sized 205/60R15 in the front and 215/60R15 in the rear, stock... The 88 15x6 front uses the same front tire size...
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FYI: I just got this BFG rebate ad from tirerack.com. If you wanna go with the BFG's it should help you out.

All the best,
-Michael


(link: http://www.tirerack.com/spe...306594&promoID=X145)
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Report this Post05-18-2011 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for John NClick Here to visit John N's HomePageSend a Private Message to John NDirect Link to This Post
Hey I just found a almost new set of Goodyear tires for a very reasonable price.

They are 185/65R14, these are not in the list, but how would they work and/or look on factory aluminum wheels?
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