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Deck lid paint question by KraigG
Started on: 04-30-2011 11:51 PM
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Report this Post04-30-2011 11:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KraigGSend a Private Message to KraigGDirect Link to This Post
Getting ready to paint my 84 coupe in Fiero red, but since all the paint is faded, I'd like to know if the black paint on the rear lid is supposed to be gloss, flat, or semi gloss? Any ideas?

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Report this Post05-01-2011 04:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
It's semi-gloss or "satin" black. I use PPG epoxy (DP) primer on all the parts & paint the black with semi-flat urethane. SEM (brand name) makes a "Hot Rod black" kit HR010 that has everything but the sandpaper & primer.
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Report this Post05-01-2011 09:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
I do not remember whose car it was, but saw some shots of one that was repainted with a BC/CC gloss black. It was pretty darn nice. I have been thinking about doing this myself to mine.
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Report this Post05-03-2011 06:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KraigGSend a Private Message to KraigGDirect Link to This Post
Bought the paint today. Red paint is really expensive!
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Report this Post05-03-2011 06:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by KraigG:

Bought the paint today. Red paint is really expensive!


Yes it is.
You really need to seal that car with a coat of PPG epoxy (DP) primer.
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Report this Post05-04-2011 12:53 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KraigGSend a Private Message to KraigGDirect Link to This Post
Paul:

Got 3 quarts of the base, 2 quarts of the clear, 2 quarts of clear coat activator, 1 qt of flex agent, 1 qt of sealer, and 1 qt of activator. My cost, at the local automotive paint store, was $850.
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Report this Post05-04-2011 12:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
What the hell brand of paint did you buy for $850.00?
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Report this Post05-04-2011 03:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by KraigG:

Paul:

Got 3 quarts of the base, 2 quarts of the clear, 2 quarts of clear coat activator, 1 qt of flex agent, 1 qt of sealer, and 1 qt of activator. My cost, at the local automotive paint store, was $850.
Ouch!


That's fairly typical of quality red paint. But you still need the PPG epoxy primer as a base (not "sealer"). The epoxy is ten times better than any sealer for adhesion, holdout, & bleedthrough. The flex agent is not necessary but it can't hurt. I'm assuming you have an HVLP gun?
For the best result with the way that car looks I'd sand the epoxy (after at least two days to dry) with 400 wet before painting. Don't shortcut it now after you've spent so much time & money on it.
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Report this Post05-08-2011 02:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KraigGSend a Private Message to KraigGDirect Link to This Post
Paul:

The paint alone was $175 a quart. The job came out pretty nicely! No, I don't have a gun. I've owned a print shop by profession, so I have no skills in painting, and I'm too old to learn new tricks. A friend who owns a body shop, and has painted previous show cars for me, did the job. He charged me $1200 for prep, and to shoot it and buff it.

I'll pick it up in a day or tow, and post pics.
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Report this Post05-08-2011 12:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86fiero2m4Send a Private Message to 86fiero2m4Direct Link to This Post
Why in the hell did you get 3 quarts of base? That car will only need 1 quart of reduced base to cover it, especially red over red. The reason red is so expensive is the minerals that are used to tint the paint. They are the most expensive in automotive paint. That's why you don't see too many ecoboxes painted red. Like all ford focuses are silver...

And I don't see any reducer on your paint list... Also, you only needed one quart of clear.

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Report this Post05-08-2011 05:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
I painted a twin engine 20 passenger commuter airliner with $1000 worth of paint and material. What did you use the flex agent for, you know its not needed for anything right ? Used to be used years ago when brittle paint was put on urathane bumpers (still didnt work then btw). Id say salesman saw you coming. Ive done this stuff for 45 years now.
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Report this Post05-16-2011 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KraigGSend a Private Message to KraigGDirect Link to This Post
Here's how it turned out.

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