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Removing spoiler...What do I fill the bolt holes with? by RhinoDj
Started on: 01-18-2011 07:31 PM
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
Hey guys, I started doing MINOR work on my new car today. I removed the factory spoiler from the rear deck and was wondering how to go about filling/covering the holes? Its not SUPER important right now, but I do want to have SOME idea of what will be involved with the work. The car isnt running and isnt going to get wet, since its under a carport, and this is SoCal after all! Eventually, the car will be repainted, but I would like to learn the best way to cover these mounting holes BEFORE we get to that point. Thanks for the help in advance!!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TrekkerClick Here to visit Trekker's HomePageSend a Private Message to TrekkerDirect Link to This Post
I just got some of those plastic things that attach door panels on from AutoZone to keep the dust out. Can't see them in my Sig since they match the paint but they are there.

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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AL87Send a Private Message to AL87Direct Link to This Post
stiff tape on the outside, and JB weld the holes from the inside?
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
Sweet Trekker! Youre in SB!! Thats awesome, not too far from me. Thanks for the advice, I think Im going to give that a try....On a side note, do you have a guy that works on your car for you? I need to get my car running ASAP...Thanks again!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for L67Send a Private Message to L67Direct Link to This Post
Fiberglass fillers. Essentially the same stuff professionals patch fiberglass tubs with. I used it the other day on a notchback panel, really easy stuff to work with.

http://www.3m.com.cn/wps/po...PDDZ67be9FJFL5HG9Dgl

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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
I had thought about that too L67, but my concern is that there isnt anything for the filler to attach to? I cant just goop it on there right? Wouldnt I have to put some sort of backing material on the underside, or even additionally the topside as well? And if I DID need to put some sort of backing material, how would I even get it into the hole closest to the back of the car? Sorry for all the ?s, I just dont know anything about body work.
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TrekkerClick Here to visit Trekker's HomePageSend a Private Message to TrekkerDirect Link to This Post
There is a guy here in San Bernardino that has worked on mine a few times. He has experience working on them and I am soon to have him replace my clutch. Kind of expensive (IMO) but he's only 5 blocks away from me!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
Kind of expensive? Does he do good work though? Thats all I care about...PM me if you want...THANKS!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 08:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for L67Send a Private Message to L67Direct Link to This Post
Same suggestion as AL87 had, used stiff backed tape on the underside, then fill all of the holes, the filler will harden and attach to the walls of the holes.. After the filler has dried, remove the tape. Sand, prime, and paint.

The filler goes on thick, so lay it down thick over the holes and over the top of the decklid around each hole. After it's dried use an orbital sander or block sander to even the surface. Like I said before, it's very easy to work with, don't let it intimidate you.

Be sure to use fiberglass filler, other body fillers can shrink or pop off over time.
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Report this Post01-18-2011 08:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
I will definitely keep that in mind. I think, FOR NOW, I am going to plug the holes with the door clips, since its not going to be painted for awhile. Thanks again guys, GREAT information!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 09:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
im looking for a rear spoiler. would you like to part out your spoiler??
i would use what L67 used. the fiberglass filler.
easy to work with. you could use bondo i guess. but it might crack over time from opening and closing the deck lid.
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Report this Post01-18-2011 09:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
Yeah Ill sell it. Its in DECENT shape, not perfect. The paint is obviously faded and needs to be redone. I dont think there are any CRACKS, but there are some marks on the backside of it, where there are some small gauges. Would have to be filled in a bit to be perfect. Throw me an offer for it. If you want pics of it, theyll have to wait for tomorrow though. Let me know!
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Report this Post01-18-2011 10:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
You have to "V" out the holes with a 24 grit disc, & fill them with SMC filler - not "fiberglass filler" (unless it says it's made for SMC). Add a little chopped (with scissors) fiberglass mat for support.
http://gafieroclub.org/bbs/index.php?topic=469.0
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Report this Post01-18-2011 10:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for L67Send a Private Message to L67Direct Link to This Post
A great answer Driver. I've used "fiberglass filler" without wedging the holes and had great success. I'm sure your method takes the extra mile award. Everyone seems to have a different way to do things. I offered up mine, because it seemed to be more elegant solution than filling the holes with JB weld and tape.
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Report this Post01-18-2011 11:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for joshh44Send a Private Message to joshh44Direct Link to This Post
im looking for a rear spoiler. would you like to part out your spoiler??
i would use what L67 used. the fiberglass filler.
easy to work with. you could use bondo i guess. but it might crack over time from opening and closing the deck lid.
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Report this Post01-19-2011 08:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for carbonSend a Private Message to carbonDirect Link to This Post
I just used little plastic hole plugs from the hardware store that I painted with touch-up paint... very much not a long term fix, but they work great until I can actually afford to do body work on my car.

It's very obvious when walking by the car that it has four nipples on the decklid, but going down the road you don't really notice them. I just wanted the wing gone, it was splitting in half along the leading and trailing edges... enough that it would vibrate in the wind at highway speed.
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Report this Post01-19-2011 08:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BoniClick Here to visit Boni's HomePageSend a Private Message to BoniDirect Link to This Post
I had to put anything on these holes last weekend, couse trunk stays wet, I missed problem before (wing gone before I bought a car). I grabbed any medium size interiors snaps from my garage shelf, probably fords, they fit holes perfect as temporary fix, and are nice and flat, minor issue - are black but I like them as they are, it looks interesting on deck, four mystery plugs to something

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Report this Post01-19-2011 09:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
This is how I did it on mine:

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/103013.html

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:
This is how I did it on mine:


Good lord that's a lot of over spray!
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Report this Post01-19-2011 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kellisor20Send a Private Message to kellisor20Direct Link to This Post
I used some bondo on the top for mine, and fiberglassed the bottom. Its holding fine. My wing had ripped out at about 120mph. Not my smartest move, since I knew it was loose. (barely wiggled)

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Report this Post01-19-2011 10:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for olchapSend a Private Message to olchapDirect Link to This Post
My project car originally came with the luggage racks. I took a spherical grinding stone and beveled both sides of the holes to form sort of an hour-glass shape. I applied duct tape to the underside and filled from the top with fiberglass. Preping the holes this way prevents the glass from ever coming out. Block sanded, then repainted. You'd have to have a magnifying glass to figure out where they used to be. I am quite pleased with the results. Also, the glass doesn't adhere to the duct tape for some reason so it seems to make a good barrier to keep the glass from running out prior to setting up.
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Report this Post01-20-2011 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RhinoDjSend a Private Message to RhinoDjDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for all the helpful information guys...I really appreciate it...New lockset is being delivered today. I think tomorrow/saturday Im going to get out the Gorilla Glue and clamps and fix the vinyl that is coming away from the interior frame pieces. Its going to be a fun weekend!
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