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Hella High Beam Modules: 90mm Reflector or 60mm Projector? by hairballrm
Started on: 12-08-2010 03:23 PM
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Report this Post12-08-2010 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
Alot of people right now are asking me what is better for a high beam.
I have had quad 90s up front for a year now.
I have yet to fully compare Hella 60 vs 90mm high beam modules.

Here in the Willamette Valley, Oregon, we have radically varied winter driving conditions.
It common for for air temperatures to hover around freezing.
We are not as wet as Seattle (thank God), but roads are wet all winter.
We get pretty heavy fog and I had never experienced "freezing fog" till I moved here.
Driving here would be a whole lot easier if it were colder.
Couple all that with ODOT not having enough budget to properly paint lines.

Oh and I almost forgot. In the woods, there are deer and wild turkey everywhere.

Stock Fiero lighting blows. The quad 90 set-up is great.
I am going to be running quad 60mm Hella with lows on when bright.
I plan on installing a interconnected fog lights. (will go out upon high beam up)
I actually can legality run more than four lights here.
But, for distance illumination, too much up-close light is a disadvantage.

I think the Freeform Reflector in the 90mm will be slightly better for dry night driving in wooded areas because of the extra "wild" light.
That being said, I plan on running all on at bright and my lows should provide the all peripheral illumination I need.
The biggest reason I will use the projectors for my highs is that I think be able to use them in bad weather more often.



This is my thinking, What is yours?

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Report this Post12-08-2010 04:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for MadDanceSkillzSend a Private Message to MadDanceSkillzDirect Link to This Post
I think the bottom line is that both are going to work great, and you'll be so happy to ditch the 6054's that you just don't care if the 60's or 90's light the road 5% better than the other. The Fiero headlights are so horrible even when replaced with new reflectors, that either the 60 or 90 will be a massive improvement. I personally like the dual 60's, and like the sharp cutoff the 60's have, as well as the larger low-beam lens.

My opinion is that the 60mm should be your only choice for the low-beam, while the high-beam is a tossup.
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Report this Post12-08-2010 04:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
I have the Hella 90mm setup on my Fiero. IMO, the high-beams are like spotlights. I can light up road signs 1/2 mile away, assuming the road is straight and flat. You must have some pretty crappy weather to need more than that.

In addition to the quad 90mm setup, I also have Hella 1300 series driving lights. The driving lights stay on when I switch to high-beams (the low-beams turn off). They help with the medium-range lighting, which extends the range a bit with the low-beams, and fills the gap with the high-beams. IMO, it's a pretty good combination.

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Report this Post12-08-2010 04:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
These are your driving lamps yes?


http://www.hella.com/produk..._1300/Model_1300.jsp
Are these what people are using for 355 nose driving lights?

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Report this Post12-08-2010 05:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
Yes, those are my driving lamps. I'm not sure what the "driving light du jour" is for the 355 front ends, though.
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Report this Post12-08-2010 08:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for timgrayClick Here to visit timgray's HomePageSend a Private Message to timgrayDirect Link to This Post
Fog, rain and snow. Lights close to the road light up way better than lights near your face. a set of 60mm projectors mounted low as fog/driving lights will give you far more visibility in weather than anything you mount where the lights go.

Therefore, if you can find a couple sets of 60mm projector Driving lights and mount them in the lower nose mouth you will have the best lighting to accent the low beams in bad weather.

My Civic Si I replaced the stock fog beams with cast aluminum and glass Hella assemblies that takes H4 bulbs. I then replaced those 35Watt bulbs with 75watt high beam bulbs. when I turn them on I can see easily 200 feet down the road at night in a major snow storm. it shoots under the snow and does not reflect off the snow and into my eyes. plus the hot lamps no keep clear as they melt the ice and snow. I drove home 35 miles in a snow storm that was dropping 2 feet of snow an hour and temps were really low. I had problems keeping the windows clear with the fan and heat at high, and I could see reflections off of cars before I saw their tail-lights.

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Report this Post12-09-2010 02:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
I think we need to remind our selves that there are many different types of foul weather driving.
I bet your mounted low, wattage up fog lights are great in the fog too.
Here we have the snow and fog sometimes.
We have wet roads all the time.
It is much nicer to drive my e-250 van in the rain than any of my cars. The van has sealed beams too.
I think think this is due to the higher elevation of the headlamps and steeper angle at which light strikes the roadway.
More light is reflected back and less down range.
I know the steeper, newer windshield has alot do do with it as well.

I digress.
I am choosing to use a projector high beam rather than a reflector.
As far as I can tell the light output is about the same.
I think the wet road illunination will be the same.
I know it will be better in the fog and snow

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