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need help with high idle 4.9? by kikinz24
Started on: 11-08-2010 09:14 AM
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Report this Post11-08-2010 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kikinz24Send a Private Message to kikinz24Direct Link to This Post
Ok I have a quick question my mom has a 92 eldorado. She took it to some mechanic my stepdad knows to have the plugs and wires changed. Got the car back it runs amazing but the idle is insanly high. In park its about 1500 in drive its 1100-1200. It has intense throttle response. But the idle was never this high. I looked around and all the vac lines are ok. What else should I look toward. Its her daily driver and with winter coming I want to make sure its In top shape
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Report this Post11-08-2010 09:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
Check that the SES is still working. Not sure if its a light on that car. Check to make sure the throttle is fully closing. Vacuum leaks or if the ECM thinks the engine is really cold or throttle still open or a non-functioning IAC.
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Report this Post11-08-2010 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kikinz24Send a Private Message to kikinz24Direct Link to This Post
Ok thanks ill take a look tonight. Is it possible he bumped the distributor. Advancing it a bit. Because as I stated all that was done was plugs wires and air filter . And it came back with the high idle. It didn't have it when she dropped it off
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On a 4.9 you really only have a few choices for high idle. Because of the idle control system on a 4.9, the PCM has full control over idle and compensates for most minor issues including VAC leaks. Major vac leaks, stuck throttle plates or cable, or a broken "closed throttle switch" (located inside the ISC, should set an SES code). The ISC (idle speed control) acts as a movable throttle stop and is controlled by the PCM. There is no air control valve so to speak. There are 2 idle speeds set in the memcal and the PCM attempts to keep the idle at those set speeds. One speed for stopped idle (<5mph) and one for coasting idle (>5mph). If the "closed throttle switch" inside the ISC is not functioning properly the PCM will not know the throttle has been released and will not set to stopped idle speed.

Do you have a scanner? There is also a possiblility you will need to perform an "idle learn" procedure. Make sure nothing is holding up the throttle cable or butterflies. The throttle body may just be really dirty also (they tend to grow carbon). There is only a 2 second high idle on startup so generally the engine temp plays little role in idle speed. The 4.9 is a unique beast when it comes to idle issues.

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