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18x10-offset 15(rear), 18x9-offset 20(front) by JSzpotek
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Report this Post09-28-2010 01:26 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JSzpotekSend a Private Message to JSzpotekDirect Link to This Post
Just wondering what I would have to do to get my spare TE37's (18x10-offset 15(rear), 18x9.5-offset 20(front)) on my 1987 Fiero GT (other then an 1 inch Adapter/Spacer 5x100 to 5x114.3).

Please note that buying other rims is not an option due to the fact that I'm trying to save money for a LS1 swap.

Thanks for your input, Jasper

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Report this Post09-28-2010 08:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
They will not fit. The 1" spacer isn't enough to clear the struts, even if you use coilovers. And even if they did clear the suspension, they will stick out noticeably.
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Originally posted by TONY_C:

They will not fit. The 1" spacer isn't enough to clear the struts, even if you use coilovers. And even if they did clear the suspension, they will stick out noticeably.


What he said...
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Report this Post09-28-2010 12:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JSzpotekSend a Private Message to JSzpotekDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by TONY_C:

They will not fit. The 1" spacer isn't enough to clear the struts, even if you use coilovers. And even if they did clear the suspension, they will stick out noticeably.


i dont care if they stick out, i just want them to fit

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Report this Post09-28-2010 12:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JSzpotek:

(other then an 1 inch Adapter/Spacer 5x100 to 5x114.3).



There aren't really any other options to space a wheel out and change the bolt pattern on a Fiero. Adapters are the only solution. There are no other combinations of hubs, bearing assemblies, or knuckles that are a direct swap and that would give you the necessary adjustment in offset.
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Originally posted by JSzpotek:


i dont care if they stick out, i just want them to fit




Just make sure you get the matching 10" exhaust tip
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Report this Post09-28-2010 01:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rodrigoSend a Private Message to rodrigoDirect Link to This Post
whats the biggest size of wheel i can put on my 88 gt 18x9?????
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Report this Post09-28-2010 02:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JSzpotekSend a Private Message to JSzpotekDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:


There aren't really any other options to space a wheel out and change the bolt pattern on a Fiero. Adapters are the only solution. There are no other combinations of hubs, bearing assemblies, or knuckles that are a direct swap and that would give you the necessary adjustment in offset.


So spacers/adapters are all i need?

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Report this Post09-28-2010 03:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JSzpotek:


So spacers/adapters are all i need?



In a previous post, I stated that they would not fit even with coilovers, they will touch but that was assuming you didn't need an adapter. Since you need an adapter, you will have enough clearance on even the stock suspension if the adapters are 1" thick. With one inch adapters, the wheel will stick out . That wheel is going to stick out like 2.5" to 3".
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Report this Post09-28-2010 03:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
JSzpotek: Yes.

Rodrigo: It depends what you mean by biggest... do you mean widest or largest diameter? There are three variables when selecting a wheel: diameter, width, and offset. You can't select a wheel based only on one or two of those measurements... you need to know all three. So start by selecting the diameter you want since that's what everyone sees. Next, determine how wide a tire you want on the car and visit a few sites like Goodyear, or Tire Rack, where they tell you what the maximum and minimum wheel width you need to mount that width tire. Then, once you've got those two measurements, start looking for a wheel that you like that is available with both those dimensions. Once you find a wheel you like, you need to do some legwork yourself to determine whether they are available in the offset needed to clear your suspension. That's the tricky part because no one likes the same look... some prefer the wheels inside the fenders, some sticking out, some have lowered suspensions others stock, some have coil-overs allowing a wider wheel others stock springs... etc, etc. So the short answer is that there is no one solution to your question.
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Report this Post09-28-2010 04:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaybeeziSend a Private Message to jaybeeziDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JSzpotek:


i dont care if they stick out, i just want them to fit

Bump please


I want to see some pics when you get them on. Buy some bolt on flares.. http://www.aerokits.net/car...tion=1&keyword=rf751 Don't know about Canada, but it's illegal to have the wheels/tires sticking out past the fender here.

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It's illegal here too.
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Originally posted by rodrigo:

whats the biggest size of wheel i can put on my 88 gt 18x9?????


9" wide with coil-overs and proper offset...
8" wide with stock strut and proper offset...
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Report this Post09-28-2010 05:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AkursedXSend a Private Message to AkursedXDirect Link to This Post
Why not just sell them???


By "TE37" I'm assuming you mean Volk TE37's. These are around $800/wheel new. So sell them for $2000 (which you shouldn't have much of a problem getting for them), buy some proper wheels for around $300/wheel and then use the extra cash towards the LS1 swap. That sounds like a much better idea then spending extra money on adapters to use a wheel that will look ridiculous on the car.

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Originally posted by JSzpotek:

Just wondering what I would have to do to get my spare TE37's (18x10-offset 15(rear), 18x9.5-offset 20(front)) on my 1987 Fiero GT (other then an 1 inch Adapter/Spacer 5x100 to 5x114.3).

Please note that buying other rims is not an option due to the fact that I'm trying to save money for a LS1 swap.

Thanks for your input, Jasper




On an '87, you can swap to the A-body HD hub carriers and get the 5x115 pattern (rear only). You can then use specialized lug nuts to adapt 5x115 o 5x114.3 (4.5").
Ctrl-F "Variation Nut":
http://www.serpentautosport...accessories_lugs.htm

I have 16x8 wheels with 25 offset on my car. That is 5.25" of backspacing. This is the greatest backspacing that can fit with a 16" wheel. These wheels also have the most front spacing you can fit under Fiero rear fenders. (Backspacing = half the OUTSIDE width + offset. Outside width is usually approximately specified width + 1/2".)

17's and larger can have ~1" more backspacing than 16's. IE, about 6.25". Wheels larger than 17 can have *slightly* more backspacing due to the angle of the strut.
18 x 10 - 15 has about 5.85" of backspacing, so it *should* fit the suspension.
However, it will stick out from the fenders about an inch. Your fenders will hit your tire tread on hard bumps; not good for either plastic fenders or tire tread.

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Report this Post09-29-2010 01:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JSzpotekSend a Private Message to JSzpotekDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by AkursedX:

Why not just sell them???


By "TE37" I'm assuming you mean Volk TE37's. These are around $800/wheel new. So sell them for $2000 (which you shouldn't have much of a problem getting for them), buy some proper wheels for around $300/wheel and then use the extra cash towards the LS1 swap. That sounds like a much better idea then spending extra money on adapters to use a wheel that will look ridiculous on the car.



Naw, i like them and i dont wanna get rid of perfectly good rims for ones that arn't as good.

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Originally posted by Will:
On an '87, you can swap to the A-body HD hub carriers and get the 5x115 pattern (rear only). You can then use specialized lug nuts to adapt 5x115 o 5x114.3 (4.5").
Ctrl-F "Variation Nut":
http://www.serpentautosport...accessories_lugs.htm

I have 16x8 wheels with 25 offset on my car. That is 5.25" of backspacing. This is the greatest backspacing that can fit with a 16" wheel. These wheels also have the most front spacing you can fit under Fiero rear fenders. (Backspacing = half the OUTSIDE width + offset. Outside width is usually approximately specified width + 1/2".)

17's and larger can have ~1" more backspacing than 16's. IE, about 6.25". Wheels larger than 17 can have *slightly* more backspacing due to the angle of the strut.
18 x 10 - 15 has about 5.85" of backspacing, so it *should* fit the suspension.
However, it will stick out from the fenders about an inch. Your fenders will hit your tire tread on hard bumps; not good for either plastic fenders or tire tread.



I'll be putting on 60mm fenders anyways! sooo i *Should* be good then?

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Report this Post09-29-2010 07:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Measure twice, cut once.
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Report this Post09-29-2010 10:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JSzpotekSend a Private Message to JSzpotekDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Will:

Measure twice, cut once.


Haha, great call.. i learnt my lesson when i was doing it on my buds car lmao..
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