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Another "will these rims fit" thread... 1996 Grand Prix by grkboy707
Started on: 08-19-2010 12:05 PM
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Report this Post08-19-2010 12:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grkboy707Send a Private Message to grkboy707Direct Link to This Post
Quick question. Will they fit? I figured since its relatively close to the same year, and both Pontiac, it may have a good chance. I saw them at work the other day, and fell in love with them. Has anyone done this, or have a way to find the offsets on them?
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Report this Post08-19-2010 12:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IFLYR22Send a Private Message to IFLYR22Direct Link to This Post
Pretty sure the bolt pattern is different.

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Report this Post08-19-2010 12:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
yup different bolt pattern/size. I had a Grand Prix and a Fiero.
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Report this Post08-19-2010 12:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grkboy707Send a Private Message to grkboy707Direct Link to This Post
Alright guys, thanks. I just have one question about the site I posted. What does "OE size" and "CB" mean?
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Report this Post08-19-2010 01:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
There are not a lot of choices for nice looking factory rims that are larger than 15" for the Fiero bolt pattern. Some Toyota, Scion, VW and Subaru wheels will fit although the offsets are not exactly the same. I ended up going with rims from a scion TC. They are 17" x 7" high quality Japanese wheels, not like the aftermarket 2 bolt pattern junk made in China. The wheels list for over $400 each at the Scion dealer but you can score a set pretty cheaply on eBay or Craigslist. It seems that the Scion guys prefer the cheap wheels for some reason. I picked up a set from eBay for $209.50 including shipping for all four. The guy even threw in 20 lug nuts. The threads are the same as the Fiero but they are not cone taper type lugs. Because of this, you have to locate the wheel on the center hubs. The one issue with the wheels is the bore is slightly smaller, I had to bore out the first 3/8 about 2 mm bigger. I can't remember the exact size offhand but if you search for it here it's available. The car looks so much better, I'm running 215/50/17 on the front and 235/50/17 on the rear. It's an 84 so I had to go with coilovers in the rear but I did try them on my son's 88 Formula and they fit with the stock suspension. The offset is 45mm and because they are an inch wider they stick out a hair more than the stock wheels but not too much to be noticeable. I also sanded off the Scion logo on the center caps and painted them to match the wheel color.
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Report this Post08-19-2010 01:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for grkboy707Send a Private Message to grkboy707Direct Link to This Post
Here's some of the rims I really like that I think will fit. All are 5x100, and between 15" and 17".
2003 Subaru Impreza http://www.finishlinewheels...EZA/2003/A-68724U20/
2005 Scion TC http://www.finishlinewheels.../TC/2005/A-69471U78/ <--- definitely fit
2001 Dodge Neon http://www.finishlinewheels...EON/2001/A-02137U10/
1999 Dodge Stratus http://www.finishlinewheels...TUS/1999/A-02114U10/
1999 Pontiac Grand Prix http://www.finishlinewheels...RIX/1999/A-06529U20/
2005 Pontiac Grand Prix http://www.finishlinewheels...RIX/2005/A-06589U10/
1996 Pontiac Grand Am http://www.finishlinewheels...+AM/1996/A-06026U10/

Any other "definitely fits" to add?

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Report this Post08-19-2010 01:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Silentassassin185Send a Private Message to Silentassassin185Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by grkboy707:

Alright guys, thanks. I just have one question about the site I posted. What does "OE size" and "CB" mean?


OE size is the stock rim size.

CB I believe is center bore.

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Originally posted by grkboy707:

Here's some of the rims I really like that I think will fit. All are 5x100, and between 15" and 17".
2003 Subaru Impreza http://www.finishlinewheels...EZA/2003/A-68724U20/
2005 Scion TC http://www.finishlinewheels.../TC/2005/A-69471U78/ <--- definitely fit

Any other "definitely fits" to add?



The Scion definitely fits but as I stated above the center bore needs to be bored open and they will not fit 84-87 rears with standard struts, the spring diameter is too big. you need to use coilovers.
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Report this Post08-19-2010 02:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for batboySend a Private Message to batboyDirect Link to This Post
Not sure about the early Grand Prix, but the generation starting in 1997 and newer had 5X115 bolt pattern and will not fit (I had a 1998 GP and know for a fact it won't fit).

The Fiero wheel bolt pattern is 5X100. Here is a list I found from an achived post of cars with this same bolt pattern. Whether the offset is correct or if the list is accurate, I have no idea. But, it should help if you are looking for some ideas.

1996-79 BUICK - Skylark, Apollo
1990-81 Skyhawk
1990-80 Century (Some 115 mm)
1989-85 Somerset, Regal , Skylark
1988-81 CADILLAC - Cimarron
1996-87 CHEVROLET - Beretta, Corsica
1999-81 Cavalier
1991-82 Celebrity (Some 115 mm)
1985-79 Citation
1999-95 CHRYSLER - Cirrus, Sebring
1995-86 Le Baron, New Yorker
1995-85 Le Baron Coupe, Sedan
1986-85 Laser
1999-95 DODGE - Neon, Stratus
1994-89 Spirit
1994-88 Dynasty
1994-87 Shadow
1992 & 88-86 Caravan
1993-85 Daytona
1989-86 Aries, Aries America
1988-86 400 "K", 600
1989-85 Lancer
1996-92 OLDSMOBILE - Achieva
1992-85 Cutlass Calais
1990-82 Cutlass Ciera (Some 115)
1988-81 Firenza
1985-79 Omega
1999-95 PLYMOUTH - Breeze, Neon
1997-86 Voyager
1994-89 Acclaim
1994-84 Sundance
1988-85 Caravelle
1989-86 Reliant, Reliant America
1998-85 PONTIAC - Grand Am
1999-81 J-2000, Sunbird, Sunfire
1990-82 A-6000 (Some 115 mm)
1988-84 Fiero
1985-79 Phoenix, Ventura
1999-94 SUBARU - Impreza
1996-90 Legacy
1992-83 TOYOTA - Camary
1997-93 VOLKSWAGEN - Corrado, Golf, Jetta, Passat
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Report this Post08-19-2010 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroseverywhereSend a Private Message to FieroseverywhereDirect Link to This Post
Watch that center bore when using OE wheels from other cars. Fieros have a 57.1mm CB. Most other cars with a 5x100 bolt pattern use a smaller bore. This means the wheels will need to be machined to fit the fiero hub. Anything that uses are larger then fiero CB can have centering rings installed. Such as most aftermarket wheels.

~96 subaru's have a 57mm CB. That is very close and if they do not bolt right on they can be opened up with a flapper wheel on a die grinder quite easily. This is how I modified a 16" subaru spare to clear my12" brake upgrade. Do it once, Do it right!! Stay safe.
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Report this Post08-19-2010 11:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Anything that will fit a new VW beetle will fit a Fiero. The bolt pattern and (I think) the centerbore are perfect.
Just as important, so is the offset.

If you have an 88, the Subaru Impreza has a more suitable offset for the fronts.
As mentioned, if you don't get a "one-size-fits-all" with a hubcentric reducer ring, be careful of the center bore.
I always understood that Subies were 56.1, vs the Fiero's 57.1. Stil not a huge deal.
The real trick is going to be finding a wheel you like that comes in sizes that fit both the Subie and the VW.

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