well my car was in an accident a few months ago and insurance wont pay long story but whatever so right now i have a car that i would be able to drive (as in move it around the driveway) but three of the tires popped off the rims (tires were about a month old at the time so i want to keep tem if at all possible)
i saw a video of people putting tires back on by putting kerosene on the rim and lighting it on fire then airing the tire up as the gas cools down im going to try this and am looking for tips ( or maybe and alternative) dont really know too much about this as i have never done it before
so thanks in advanced i will post back when i burn my eyebrows off =)
I saw a video on a 4X4 site where a guy re-seated the bead by spraying inside the tire w/WD-40, . . . then sprayed the can through the open flame of a 'Bic' lighter to ignite the fumes inside the tire, . . . and they say ya gotta have leather balls to play rugby! Cool to watch, but I don't think I'll be doin' that any time soon, or ever, for that matter. If ya blow your gadnoids off, . . . don't blame me.
Why not just take the rims off and take them to a tire shop and have them do it for you? Shouldn't cost much and I'm sure they ought to be checked for balance.
You tube has a number of videos about this. Some people used starting fluid too. Looks dangerous! I think there can't be any weight on the tire either.
I agree...take the wheels off and have a garage re-seat the bead.
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FFIEROFRED Member
Posts: 751 From: GULFPORT, MS Registered: May 2008
lighter fluid, some thing with a lon.............................g handle to light it. No weight on the tire, jack in up the day before, let it get back in to shape, it can be done. but taking them off one at a time, CLEANING the bead area, taking it to a tire place for air is a much better plan. If you blow-it-back-on the rim, with out the cleaning part, you are asking for a lot of putting air in a low tire time.
I use to use the starting fluid trick all the time on heavy equipment tires. One day another mechanic I was working with almost lost a hand doing it. That's when I stopped that. How about jacking up the car and putting a ratchet strap around the center and see if you can compress the centers till it comes the edges of the rim, then put some air in. Leave the valve core out so the air will go in quickly. After the tire is seated let the air out ,remove the strap and re install the valve core. You have to have a decent size air tank on your compressor but whatever you do please DON'T use the fire method.
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
I have to agree, bad idea. I had to reset a few tires and all I did was use a compressor and a hammer to tap on the tire while the air was being pushed in. Another idea is a a ratchet strap or even a chain that you twist (did this with a lawnmower tire.... TOO MANY times).
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i saw a video of people putting tires back on by putting kerosene on the rim and lighting it on fire then airing the tire up as the gas cools down im going to try this and am looking for tips ( or maybe and alternative) dont really know too much about this as i have never done it before
Lots of silly things on YouTube
4x4'ers do this in the backcountry when they have to because trying to seat a huge tire with just a 12v compressor won't do the trick.
Do you have a ratcheting strap? Try wrapping it around the center of the tire and tightening it up. That should get the beads close enough to the rims to fill up with air. Also be very careful to check for damage on those tires. If you hit something hard enough to knock them off the beads they may be damaged and not safe to drive on.
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Long time ago I had a tire shop replace a bad tire. He tried the ratcheting strap and a bunch of tricks that didn't work. Finally he got pizzed "spelled wrong on purpose" off and pulled out a can of lighter fluid and squirted it into the tire.
He then said " S T A N D B A C K " while he lit a match and chucked it into the tire. This wasn't his 1st time but the grin on his face made you think it was.
I'd never try it especially with wheel still on car. Take them to a tire shop.
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Posts: 482 From: Morrisdale, PA Registered: Jun 2009
Make sure if you use a strap that it is strong and in good shape. I have broken a 4000lb strap that wasn't in good shape before doing this and it broke with considerable force. Don't let anything be in the possible path of the strap while inflating. IMHO, its still probably safer than lighter fluid, but still better to take them to a shop.
From the cheap garage I ve done this at the 7/11 .50cent air station using a piece of rope tightened around tire to compress tire so tire bead rim touches wheel rim,,then air it up..
Smarter & safer to just have the tire company do it
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Posts: 11139 From: South Weber, UT. U.S.A. Registered: Jun 2008
4x4'ers do this in the backcountry when they have to because trying to seat a huge tire with just a 12v compressor won't do the trick.
Take your wheels to a shop and get it done right.
Exactly. That method should be reserved for a select few situations, and then done very cautiously. Like... When your about 20 miles outside of Gila Bend AZ. cleaning up a train derailment and you pop the bead on the tire of the forklift used to load the smashed up cars onto the semi cart and dollies. There is nothing else out there and you need that forklift back operational asap.
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Do you have a ratcheting strap? Try wrapping it around the center of the tire and tightening it up. That should get the beads close enough to the rims to fill up with air. Also be very careful to check for damage on those tires. If you hit something hard enough to knock them off the beads they may be damaged and not safe to drive on.
Bingo - We have a winner - done this a hundred times in the desert/sand dunes. You know, let the air out of the tires for flotation on the sand, hit something hard and pop the bead, hi lift jack, wrap a ratchet strap around the middle of the tire and crank on it till the tire pushes out toward the bead and plug in the 12 volt air compressor - works everytime and there is no risk of going KABOOM! If you have some water, beer, soda, oil - before you aply the strap, wet the tire bead and wheel bead - helps to seal and lube the bead so that it pops back easier!
Exactly. That method should be reserved for a select few situations, and then done very cautiously. Like... When your about 20 miles outside of Gila Bend AZ. cleaning up a train derailment and you pop the bead on the tire of the forklift used to load the smashed up cars onto the semi cart and dollies. There is nothing else out there and you need that forklift back operational asap.
Sounds like Hulcher? I've watched those crazy guys do all kinds of things to clean up a derailment.
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Posts: 434 From: Meadville, Pa, USA Registered: Jan 2009
worked at a diesel shop and we would either tires up on beads, the downfall is when the rim is weak from being run with a flat... we had a guy seriously injured when a ( split rim or 2 piece rim ) exploded. Needless to say it was an aweful experience for the whole shop and the guy spent months recovering and being scarred for life. I would never suggest it to anyone. take it to a shop or use the ratchet methods.. Dish soap around the beads, take out the core if your nozzle will work without it, hit the air to it and bound the tire or push in on the gaps.. Good luck to ya. Being safe is always your best game plan...
worked at a diesel shop and we would either tires up on beads, the downfall is when the rim is weak from being run with a flat... we had a guy seriously injured when a ( split rim or 2 piece rim ) exploded. Needless to say it was an aweful experience for the whole shop and the guy spent months recovering and being scarred for life. I would never suggest it to anyone. take it to a shop or use the ratchet methods.. Dish soap around the beads, take out the core if your nozzle will work without it, hit the air to it and bound the tire or push in on the gaps.. Good luck to ya. Being safe is always your best game plan...
I was wondering when someone would finally mention removing the stem core. It will take air a lot faster without it.
Originally posted by azmelter: I use to use the starting fluid trick all the time on heavy equipment tires. One day another mechanic I was working with almost lost a hand doing it. That's when I stopped that. How about jacking up the car and putting a ratchet strap around the center and see if you can compress the centers till it comes the edges of the rim, then put some air in. LEAVE THE VALVE CORE OUT so the air will go in quickly. After the tire is seated let the air out ,remove the strap and RE-INSTALL THE VALVE CORE. You have to have a decent size air tank on your compressor but whatever you do please DON'T use the fire method.
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Posts: 16083 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
The lighter fluid blast em on method wil work but it also has potential to rip a belt in the tire. Once a belt tears you can throw the tire away.
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If you do try to use the strap and air method, mix a little dawn dish soap in a cup of water, and run it around the bead on both sides to lube it. Then, when you put air in the tire, it slides on a lot easier.
Why not just take the rims off and take them to a tire shop and have them do it for you? Shouldn't cost much and I'm sure they ought to be checked for balance.
It happened on one of my tire and the tire shop where I get all of my tires did it for free. It only took a few minutes and it was nice and safe.
When I was young and worked in a gas station (back when the had garages and offered service) we would just hold the air hose on the valve stem and bounce the tire a little until the bead caught.
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