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Camaro 2.8 engine by stewnew
Started on: 05-31-2010 06:29 PM
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Report this Post05-31-2010 06:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stewnewSend a Private Message to stewnewDirect Link to This Post
Still no luck in sourcing a replacement engine for my Fiero.

I have located a 2.8 V6 from an 89 Firebird.

Will this engine work with an intake swap? or are there any other differences that will causes problems? starter location?

Any help will be greatly appreciated it nearly summer here in the UK and I want to get Fiero on the road.
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Report this Post05-31-2010 09:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for White SpyderSend a Private Message to White SpyderDirect Link to This Post
In therory a 2.8 is a 2.8. I swapped one from a S10 into my car. You should have all the Fiero specific things you need from your old car (If it is a dead 2.8) You will need to make a few modifications.
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Report this Post05-31-2010 09:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
You have to drill for new starter holes, not hard. The heads will be the same as Fiero heads. It should work. Be prepared to transfer the exterior stuff though.

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Report this Post06-01-2010 11:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jack_StrokerSend a Private Message to Jack_StrokerDirect Link to This Post
I wouldn't think you'd need to drill any holes for the starter. Simply use one that's designed for the 2.8L Fiero. Since you won't (or shouldn't) be carrying over the transmission, flywheel, or anything like that, you should be good to go. The 2.8L blocks should be the same. The intake is similar as well though I think the Fiero's is angled differently at the throttle body. So the intake may bolt up but you'd need the throttle body from the original Fiero engine. The heads and virtually everything else is pretty much the same.

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Report this Post06-01-2010 11:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
Isn't the starter on the opposite side with the RWD vs FWD 2.8 engines?
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A camaro 2.8 is identical to the 3.4. Starter is on the wrong side. You will have to do a top swap as well to make it work. To be honest for the amount of work it is going to take to get the camaro 2.8 to work in the fiero, just find a 3.4.

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Originally posted by Jack_Stroker:

I wouldn't think you'd need to drill any holes for the starter. Simply use one that's designed for the 2.8L Fiero. Since you won't (or shouldn't) be carrying over the transmission, flywheel, or anything like that, you should be good to go. The 2.8L blocks should be the same. The intake is similar as well though I think the Fiero's is angled differently at the throttle body. So the intake may bolt up but you'd need the throttle body from the original Fiero engine. The heads and virtually everything else is pretty much the same.



The starter is mounted on the block so whether you take the transmission or anything else doesn't matter because its still going on the block. Also the blocks are not the same. Set a fiero 2.8 next to a camaro/s10 2.8 different mounts on the block. The longer mount from the cradle to the side of the block will not bolt up directly as the spacing fro the holes is different. There will also be some modifying of the block as it won't clear the original transmission (automatic atleast). You need to use the fiero intake as well IIRC. Its been a while since I did my S10 2.8 swap and there is alot more involved than you think.
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Report this Post06-01-2010 03:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for aaronkochSend a Private Message to aaronkochDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Fiero_Fan_88:


The starter is mounted on the block so whether you take the transmission or anything else doesn't matter because its still going on the block. Also the blocks are not the same. Set a fiero 2.8 next to a camaro/s10 2.8 different mounts on the block. The longer mount from the cradle to the side of the block will not bolt up directly as the spacing fro the holes is different. There will also be some modifying of the block as it won't clear the original transmission (automatic atleast). You need to use the fiero intake as well IIRC. Its been a while since I did my S10 2.8 swap and there is alot more involved than you think.


Starter needs to be moved to other side, so it's not directly where the transmission or axle go past in FWD applications.
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Report this Post06-01-2010 03:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for phonedawgzClick Here to visit phonedawgz's HomePageSend a Private Message to phonedawgzDirect Link to This Post
Yes you need to move the starter

Rodney Dickman sells a jig to drill and tap the holes into the block when swapping a 2.8/3.1/3.4 Rear Wheel Drive into a FWD setup like the Fieros.

http://rodneydickman.com/ca...h=34&products_id=194

You WILL need to drill and tap the holes. You can upgrade to the 3.4 as suggested before.

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RWD 2.8,3.1,3.4 all have to have the starter moved to the other side of the block. All the instructions you could need are in my swap thread in my sig. No need for a jig either. But as said above, with the extra work involved go find a 3.4 from a 93-95 camaro/firebird. exact same work as a 2.8 RWD block, but a better engine, more power.


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Originally posted by Fiero_Fan_88:
A camaro 2.8 is identical to the 3.4. Starter is on the wrong side. You will have to do a top swap as well to make it work. To be honest for the amount of work it is going to take to get the camaro 2.8 to work in the fiero, just find a 3.4.

 
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Originally posted by sardonyx247:
RWD 2.8,3.1,3.4 all have to have the starter moved to the other side of the block. All the instructions you could need are in my swap thread in my sig. No need for a jig either. But as said above, with the extra work involved go find a 3.4 from a 93-95 camaro/firebird. exact same work as a 2.8 RWD block, but a better engine, more power.

stewnew, although the challenge for you in the U.K. may be finding one, I agree in principle with the advice offered you by Fiero_Fan_88 and sardonyx247, to get instead of the pushrod 2.8L V6 engine you've found from a 1989 Firebird, a pushrod 3.4L V6 from a 1993 to 1995 Camaro or Firebird. The 3.4L engine will require essentially the same amount of effort to install in your Fiero as will the 2.8L Firebird engine you've found, but the 3.4L provides a better oiling system, and with its approximately 20% larger displacement, noticeably greater low-end torque.

In either case, good luck to you with whichever engine you end up swapping into your Fiero.
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