ok not trying to double post but nobody's going to read my other one to answer this....does anyone have a pic they can post of a neutral safety switch for an 86 manual? and maybe a part number? the local parts store doesnt have a pic and they dont have it in stock. what other vehicles use the same?

They are getting hard to get. I used one from an 87 S10 (Wells) but I had to reverse the rod.

If you have one with a good rod (my second one snapped) I have a good switch (about a year old). You can just swap the rod into it.

my whole thing is i have one on mine but my clutch wiring thing doesnt fit onto it. but another thing is switched to it...im confused...what plugs into the swicth other than thw wire that if u jump u can start the car w/o pressing the clutch?

The NSS has a plastic rod that goes through it and connects to the clutch pedal. Push the pedal in and look under there. You will see it. large purple and yellow wires go to it. The switch pivots on one long screw.

The cruise disengage clutch switch is mounted ahead of the pedal and the pedal keeps a plunger pushed in until you press the pedal.

k then the one i have is completely wrong. its a button style and has a two wire connector on it with two yellow wires with black stripes. might be why i could never get my cruise to work. other than the switch is there any way of checking if its going to work? ive replaced all the vaccum lines but its never worked since ive had the car due to the switch being rigged the way it is.

Although I don't recommend it, you can bypass the cruise clutch switch by temporarily splicing the dark green and the brown/white wires together to test it. Keep in mind with this set up, if you're on cruise and you push the clutch pedal in, you'll redline your engine in a heartbeat. You'll have to remember to disengage the cruise either by pressing on the brake first, or turning it off at the stalk BEFORE you depress the clutch pedal.

Also, one of the more common vacuum leaks is the vacuum reservoir (the juice can). They rust out from the bottom where you can't see it.

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The upper switch

ok good pics...i have that bottom switch the top one is completely missing. whats the bottom one control? and i know my coffe can is fine since its been replaced and kinda relocated for the moment. *zip tied*

The clutch pedal only has one switch. The brake pedal has two, one for the brake lights, and the other to disengage the cruise control. This last switch is in series with the one on the clutch pedal so that regardless which one is depressed, clutch or brake, the cruise turns off.

if you look at the pic theres two switches on the clutch pedal. one on top one below.

On the pic, the top switch is the Neutral Safety Switch. The bottom is the cruise kick off switch. Cruse kick off switch is activated at the top of the pedal throw. The Neutral Switch doesn't get activated till the bottom of the throw, thus the weird pass through linkage of the switch. Move it all the way down and there is a plunger that the plastic arm travels through that finally gets pushed down.

DOH! I feel stupid. Funny thing is that I sat there there for about a minute trying to think of what other switch there could possibly be on the clutch pedal and couldn't for the life of me think of one. Rack one up for a brain fart.

anyone got an extra laying around? the local parts store doesnt and cnt get them.

Just for the record, a manual car does not have a "neutral safety switch". They are found on automatic cars in one form or another, either by itself, or incorporated in the gear selector switch.
Nothing on the cluch start switch in the Fiero's prevents them from being started in when not in "Neutral", or "Park", only when the clutch is disengaged.

Kevin

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quote Originally posted by Lambo nut: Just for the record, a manual car does not have a "neutral safety switch". They are found on automatic cars in one form or another, either by itself, or incorporated in the gear selector switch. Nothing on the cluch start switch in the Fiero's prevents them from being started in when not in "Neutral", or "Park", only when the clutch is disengaged. Kevin

Well, it depends on how you look at it. It's there so you don't start the car without it being in neutral. And the solution makes it possible to start the car without it being in neutral. I think that is intuitively obvious.

[This message has been edited by TK (edited 04-11-2010).]