Hi all.maybe this topic has been covered before,sorry if it has.Could i use Rattlecan paint to paint my front bumper?and maybe some other parts,like maybe the roof, and what brand would i get i have used krylon before.You guys are a great source of information,really appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
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Posts: 4442 From: Centralia,Missouri. USA Registered: Sep 2003
I would not count on rattle can paint to last too long. If I were to go with one, I have notice the Dupli color factory match cans at places like Oreilly's and such, smell the closest to actual automotive paint. For what it's worth.
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Hockaday Member
Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
Dupli-Color rattle cans are pretty good. I don't know if they fade over time. I'd be worried about how well it sticks without flex agents or adhesion promoters. I don't know how to paint polyurethane, but the flexibility may be a problem.
If you are planning on painting a large part of the car get cans from the same batch number. One of the car magazine did a rattle can paint job. 3 cases of paint and it looked pretty good but for the money they could have got a cheap spray gun and the correct paint.
If you do your own prep work and sand very well/carefully then tape off everything the way you want it.. it really would be a good idea to have it shot with real automotive paint. For $250-$400 you can get a very decent paint job if you do the prep work.
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Posts: 819 From: Detroit, Michigan, US Registered: Oct 2005
I have done 2 Fieros with rattle cans. I used the duplicolor from orielys and it works great. It does not crack when it bends, to a reasonable extent anyway. Make sure it is sanded VERY WELL or it will crack off. Sand it good then wet sand and it will be fine but dont miss any spots. Also, it is not protected so the front bumper especially will get chips pretty quick. May need to paint it again eventually.
Black will never come out well, it will always be flat with no shine (I did it twice). Currently I have my white one which turned out much better than I would have thought. No one believed me when I said it was spray paint. I always got the comment "It just looks like it needs to be waxed or something." I am very happy with it. I will post pics tomorrow.
Also, NEVER MIX BRANDS OR KINDS OF PAINT! It will flake off in sheets. Use the same kind and color and not any that are more than a few months older.
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Posts: 2165 From: Clifton Park, New York, The States. Registered: Sep 2009
I have done 2 Fieros with rattle cans. I used the duplicolor from orielys and it works great. It does not crack when it bends, to a reasonable extent anyway. Make sure it is sanded VERY WELL or it will crack off. Sand it good then wet sand and it will be fine but dont miss any spots. Also, it is not protected so the front bumper especially will get chips pretty quick. May need to paint it again eventually.
Black will never come out well, it will always be flat with no shine (I did it twice). Currently I have my white one which turned out much better than I would have thought. No one believed me when I said it was spray paint. I always got the comment "It just looks like it needs to be waxed or something." I am very happy with it. I will post pics tomorrow.
Also, NEVER MIX BRANDS OR KINDS OF PAINT! It will flake off in sheets. Use the same kind and color and not any that are more than a few months older.
idk about that, my Datsun is painted with black rustoleum which i rolled on, and has lime green graphix that i used auto paint to paint, then shot clear over the entire thing. worked perfectly.
Rattle spray cans are the loyal hard working friend of the cheap,,err frugal, car crafter,,I use to buy and sell cars and have detailed many Camaro,I have found the spray rattle cans to provide a great touch up paint job,,the area should be preped a reasonable amount.. I have 4 different colors of RED,using the closest to my color (#4) I recently detailed my Fiero and it looks great,,I have areas where it is really rough,flaky paint large areas with no paint on the roof ,and an area with no paint 3 inch X 7 inch on the hood ,,you can see the depression ,with minimum prep I sprayed these 2 areas with can #4,,you can see the flaws if you look directly at them ,,I sprayed paint into a bottle cap and touched up scratches,chips,ect. using a book match stick as my brush,I rubbed it out,I then waxed with turtle wax,, $2.50 from big lots,,it is not show quality but looks great,once waxed the color difference is barely noticible a red rattle can paint job looks great on the calipers,on supension parts,I sprayed my lower slash panels ,covering a lot of sins,this area was really rough does not look as good ,but only close inspection reveals them any flaws some auto paint stores will match your paint color & install it in a spray can,,take the headlite cover panel,or gas cover panel rub it out with polishing compound ,,to get a more exact color (im to cheap) about $20.oo from auto paint store
Oh man.... I can almost hear the screaming and wailing now!!!
I'm considering using the "Fusion" spray paint.. which is specifically for plastic.... But..... I'm considering trying to paint the Black parts of the rear plastic lenses. For some reason, the clear outer plastic over the central black areas of the rear lenses (where the "Pontiac" is) is separating from the black inner part.
On my 87GT, the center black areas, look splotchy. I've had the lenses off, and it looks like the clear outside was molded right over the black plastic. There doesn't seem to be a way to get that apart so I could spray on the inside. So to not have to spend $250.00, I'm considering spraying flat black right on to the clear plastic on the outside.
Has anyone tried to do this? and does it look like c**p?
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Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
You can mask them and paint them. If you mask it right it wont look bad, just not original. Id suggest using Krylon BBQ black that has just the right amount of gloss to look good.
As for painting your car with Fusion paint....Yes it is for plastic, but your not painting plastic, you painting over old paint. Fiero body dont need any special prep different from any other car whether its steel, fiberglass or Fiero. Fiero is a combination of different types of plastic and the only thing needing anything 'special ' is the front and rear bumper covers made of urathane (almost rubber). If your using rattle can on those, just make sure you sand all the gloss out of every nook and cranny. Duplicolor paint Im pretty sure is laquer. Only make it thick enough to cover or it may crack with an impact. Regular automotive basecoat clearcoat paint is flexible enough...also if you dont put it on thick. Some people put 'flex agent' in that, but its totally unecessary. Flex was made 40 years ago when factories used laquer no matter what paint salesmen will tell you.
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Thanks so much for your advice everyone ! I so value your input especially Roger Garrisons.thanks for taking time out of your busy lives to answer my question.Hope you all have a Great weekend.
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When I bought my 86 SE, the driver side door had been reskinned with a code 71 red door, and the rest of the car is code 81. In the picture below, you can make out the difference in color. I painted the door with Duplicolor DSGM398 red (rattle cans) .which is supposed to be the duplicate for the original color. After a lot of elbow grease polishing it, it came out very good, and you have to be real close to tell it's been painted. After two years, it still looks good. After picture below:
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