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Auto Meter oil pressure gauge --- Do I need a resistance? by falcon_ca
Started on: 12-28-2009 09:42 PM
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Report this Post12-28-2009 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for falcon_caSend a Private Message to falcon_caDirect Link to This Post
I installed an Auto Meter Pro Comp Ultra-Lite Oil Pressure gauge in my Formula using the stock 88 sender, and when I turn the key to "On" position the needle steps immediately to 100 psi and stay there even after engine start.

Do I need a resistance between the gauge and the sender ?

There is one at the back of the stock gauge.

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Report this Post12-29-2009 12:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
I don't know if their is a resistor for the stock gauge. Are you talking about the rally gauges?
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Report this Post12-29-2009 03:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ManMadeChickensSend a Private Message to ManMadeChickensDirect Link to This Post
I believe the AutoMeter gauge uses a different kind of signal than the stock gauge. In order to get the AM gauge to work correctly, I think you'll need to get an AutoMeter sender.
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Report this Post12-29-2009 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CajunSend a Private Message to CajunDirect Link to This Post

If I'm not mistaken, the stock oil pressure gauge/sender is a 90 ohm unit. If the aftermarket gauge is not compatible or other than a 90 ohm unit it will not work. Or work correctly.

My 2cents......................
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Report this Post12-29-2009 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for falcon_caSend a Private Message to falcon_caDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

I don't know if their is a resistor for the stock gauge. Are you talking about the rally gauges?


Yes, on a Formula the Oil pressure Gauge is in the same location as the GT.

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Report this Post12-29-2009 11:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
Do not worry about the resistance on the back of the stock gauge. It's just part of the stock gauge.

If the gauge reads high pressure - it's because of a high resistance to ground.
Two possibilities:

1. Very high pressure (no........)
2. There is a break in the wiring to the gauge. Could be a broken wire, loose connector...

Edit: this would be correct if the Autometer gauge measures the sender's resistance to ground, with high resistance = high pressure, like the stock gauge.

If not, can you show us the wiring diagram?

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Report this Post12-29-2009 04:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for falcon_caSend a Private Message to falcon_caDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by pmbrunelle:

Do not worry about the resistance on the back of the stock gauge. It's just part of the stock gauge.

If the gauge reads high pressure - it's because of a high resistance to ground.
Two possibilities:

1. Very high pressure (no........)
2. There is a break in the wiring to the gauge. Could be a broken wire, loose connector...

Edit: this would be correct if the Autometer gauge measures the sender's resistance to ground, with high resistance = high pressure, like the stock gauge.

If not, can you show us the wiring diagram?




For wiring, I connected the "Tan" wire to the "sender" connector on the gauge. Others are "+" an "-".

AutoMeter sender only have one connector.

I have done another test: Without installing it, I grounded the AutoMeter sender, and connect it to the gauge. Needle moves a little bit but stays near "0".
So I beleive "high resistance" means "low pressure" with the AutoMeter sender.

On the ohmmeter, the needle reacts the same under both conditions.

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So now I will need a "T" fitting to be able to have both senders installed.

What is the thread size of the stock sender?

I can figure out if it is M12x1.5 or 1/2 x 18

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Report this Post12-29-2009 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pmbrunelleSend a Private Message to pmbrunelleDirect Link to This Post
The stock sender is 1/4" NPT.

But you do not need to keep the stock sender.

You would lose the oil pressure switch though, but it's not very important.
The oil pressure switch activates the fuel pump in case the fuel pump relay fails.

If your fuel pump relay ever stops working, you can always stick a paperclip in the relay plug to force the pump on, or use the A/C relay just beside it to get home.
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Report this Post12-30-2009 12:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for falcon_caSend a Private Message to falcon_caDirect Link to This Post
I read a lot of story about the relationship between the oil pressure sender and the fuel pump, butit is the first time I see this one.

The most common is if there is no oil pressure the fuel pump will be shut off.
I also know about jumping 2 pins on the ALDL connector.

Anyway, I will replace the stock oil pressure sender with AutoMeter's one using a 1/8 NPT female to 1/4 NPT male adapter.
I will probably soon have 2 stock senders for sale , I bought a new one for my 4.9 swap.

Thx

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