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Brake Sticks - Plugged line? by Bfisher31286
Started on: 11-04-2009 10:59 PM
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Report this Post11-04-2009 10:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bfisher31286Send a Private Message to Bfisher31286Direct Link to This Post
So I have been trying to solve this problem for a few days now. I changed the caliper and it didn't make a difference. The right rear brake sticks enough to make the brake smoke after a short drive. The line for that wheel is also very hard to bleed (I usually have to do it with the engine running for the brake booster). The rest of the brakes work and bleed fine. I noticed the junction block for the rear brake is right by that wheel. Is it possible the line is plugged somehow?
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Report this Post11-04-2009 11:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
If you are still running original rubber brake hoses the inside wall can deteriorate and collapse turn it into kind of a one way check valve. Also possible for the hard lines to be blocked somewhere along the way.
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So whats the best way to check/fix that? Replace the hard line to the junction block and the rubber line?
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Report this Post11-04-2009 11:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
As a test before you waste money on parts you dont need, I would swap the rubber lines and see if the problem follows. I have never had a hard line get blockage but it is possible, especially if the car sat a while.
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Report this Post11-04-2009 11:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bfisher31286Send a Private Message to Bfisher31286Direct Link to This Post
I'll try swapping the lines and see what happens. What is the correct method of compressing the caliper? Mine has some mark on the piston that look like a tool is used to spin it.
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Report this Post11-04-2009 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Some people rotate it in with a special tool. I never had good results that way. I prefer to remove the parking brake lever then pres the piston straight in with a c-clamp with a large socket over the parking brake stud so it can move freely.

Ogres cave has a really good explination of the rear brakes operation, worth reading !
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Report this Post11-06-2009 03:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bfisher31286Send a Private Message to Bfisher31286Direct Link to This Post
Wow I never saw that one before. It was a plugged rubber line. Disconnected the line one part at a time and when I got the rubber line disconnected from the hard line the fluid bled out more easily. I ordered a new one and will be replacing it this weekend. Thanks for the help guys.
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And by "guys" I mean Mike. Thanks a lot for your help.
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Report this Post11-06-2009 03:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
Some times what happens is that the bracket that attaches the hose to the frame starts to rust.... the crimped part, around the hose starts to expand and then the hose gets clamped off by the expansion. I had to loose one of these on my '86SE. I flexed the hose and then lightly clamped it back down and all was well.

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Originally posted by Bfisher31286:

And by "guys" I mean Mike. Thanks a lot for your help.


Glad to help ! good to see you found the problem source !

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Report this Post11-06-2009 04:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Replace rubber lines in PAIRS. never just do one. I also belive the same in pads or calipers....always a pair and you wont have further grief.
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Report this Post11-06-2009 09:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post

I had a rubber line go bad and it's scary dangerous as if you need to panic stop the car is going to swerve uncontrollably in one direction or the other.

Fortunately replacing a rubber hose is easy. One trick, make sure you use a torque wrench on the aluminum calipers or you WILL strip it out and render it useless.
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Report this Post11-06-2009 10:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierocarpartsSend a Private Message to fierocarpartsDirect Link to This Post
I just came across this same problem. Lf rear was sticking. Figured it was caliper sticking. Replaced with almost new. Still seized up. Opened bleeder valve, pressurized fluid came out. Heard that lines are common problem. Replaced it, brakes work great.

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Originally posted by jaskispyder:

Some times what happens is that the bracket that attaches the hose to the frame starts to rust.... the crimped part, around the hose starts to expand and then the hose gets clamped off by the expansion. I had to loose one of these on my '86SE. I flexed the hose and then lightly clamped it back down and all was well.

J.


this is more common than most people think. it is sometimes the cause for the calippers to lock and overheat deteriorating the piston . one reason for this to happen is old fluid never replaced.
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Report this Post11-07-2009 10:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for kzeliskoSend a Private Message to kzeliskoDirect Link to This Post
I had the right rear go bad on me. Same symptoms. I unfortunately didn't figure it out fast enough and it eventually resulted in the brake overheating and catching fire. Bad brake hoses is bad news.
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