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SBC Exhaust system by Janisv
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Report this Post09-21-2009 06:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JanisvSend a Private Message to JanisvDirect Link to This Post
Hi all those SBC fiero conversion owners !
I bought a fiero with V8 SBC already installed, but have some cooling problems, so engine is all the time hot..
Other problem is that exhaust system is completely rusted and I want to install something different.
Would be very nice to see some solutions what have you done
Regards,
Janis

Would be nice to have this topic discussed and maybe someone will post good information and pic.

Once again thank You for this excellent forum which brings together all fiero enthusiasts!
Janis

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Report this Post09-21-2009 07:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruDirect Link to This Post
I have ran true duals as well as a single inlet crossflow muffler on my SBC fiero.

Here is the dual 2 1/4" setup with turbo tube mufflers (not glasspacks):



Here is the single inlet setup. 2 1/2" mandrel bends off the manifolds into a 3" in dual 2 1/2" out Flowtech Afterburner muffler.

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Report this Post09-21-2009 08:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
fieroguru..How quiet are your exhaust systems?? The V8 Fiero is awfully loud and I need it to be made quieter. What was the cost of the exhaust systems??
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Report this Post09-21-2009 08:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JanisvSend a Private Message to JanisvDirect Link to This Post
Which configuration is better for SBC and which is not very loud?

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Report this Post09-21-2009 10:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
If you're concerned about emissions, you can replace the mufflers shown in fieroguru's dual system with universal cats, which muffle the sound about 80%, then add glasspack tips. That's what I did on my SBC kit and the sound level is easily tolerable. I also chose to go with 3-way cats ($100 ea) and A.I.R pump since that's what the L98 engine needed back then to pass emissions (and it passed with flying colors). I used 2.5" mandrel bent elbows from Hedman and pieced it together for the best fit. The SBC would benefit from a cross-over pipe and/or possibly by mating the two sides like in fieroguru's second set of pictures, but the added complication of a cross-over would normally require you to cut into your trunk for the space necessary to place it correctly.

My pictures are scanned in from the mid 90's so they're not as clear as fieroguru's, but they may help you visualize the routing.







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Originally posted by Old Lar:

fieroguru..How quiet are your exhaust systems?? The V8 Fiero is awfully loud and I need it to be made quieter. What was the cost of the exhaust systems??



The dual setup was much quieter than the single, but I never got a sound clip for it. Here is the sound clip for the single exhaust:


They both were in the $100 to $150 range for the mufflers and mandrel bends and I fabbed them up myself.
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Originally posted by Bloozberry:





Never seen anyone use the C4 vette manifolds before due to alternator clearance... I always liked them!

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If you are wanting a really quiet SBC, you are probably best off to start with these turbo manifolds and run the exhaust in the stock fiero format with the cat up front and the muffler in the rear. This will greatly increase the overall exhaust length and help quiet it down (hard to do with 5 feet of exhaust length).

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Originally posted by fieroguru:

If you are wanting a really quiet SBC, you are probably best off to start with these turbo manifolds and run the exhaust in the stock fiero format with the cat up front and the muffler in the rear. This will greatly increase the overall exhaust length and help quiet it down (hard to do with 5 feet of exhaust length).



It also helps to quiet the exhaust if you populate those two collector flanges with turbos...

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Report this Post09-21-2009 03:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JanisvSend a Private Message to JanisvDirect Link to This Post
What kind of manifolds is better to use, except these turbo?
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Report this Post09-21-2009 03:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JanisvSend a Private Message to JanisvDirect Link to This Post

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Here is some pictures about my "good condition" SBC





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Report this Post09-21-2009 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TrintenSend a Private Message to TrintenDirect Link to This Post
I don't know how much of a sound difference headers vs. manifolds (or semi-manifolds, like those Vette and turbo ones), but I've got headers and cats on mine, the exhaust run identically to how it's pictured with Fieroguru, and tips with bafflers, and it's still very loud and has alot of droning (in my case, it seems like the cats reduce about eight percent of the noise, instead of Bloozberry's 80!). My exhaust is rusted up pretty good too, so I'm planning on having it redone and trying to fit some mufflers in there someplace.

I've read that getting 'rubber donut' exhaust mounts and playing with how far the tips project past and/or away from the bumper has a big effect on reducing droning, so you may want to keep that in mind when you get yours redone.

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Report this Post09-21-2009 05:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mafv8Send a Private Message to mafv8Direct Link to This Post
I have a very similar set-up to FieroGuru's on my V8, but I have 2.5" ramhorns and a Dynomax Ultraflow muffler, 3" in with dual 2.5" out, its a straight-thru glasspak design but it really knocks the sound down at idle and lower speeds, almost to much but my nieghbours probably prefer it compared to the flowmaster I had before. I did have to cut-out the trunk bottom to fit it though, but my golf clubs still fit ok, so thats fine.

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Report this Post09-22-2009 01:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tvelardeClick Here to visit tvelarde's HomePageSend a Private Message to tvelardeDirect Link to This Post
I run the headers that Fieroguru shows in a previous post. In fact, I have installed those stainless turbo mufflers on three V8 installations to date and they are very nice pieces. Go to my web site at www.v8-fiero.us and take a look at the overall build. I ran them forward and into a Spintech dual 2.5 and a 3 in single outlet. They exit under the passenger door. The sound is very nice, not too loud and still reasonable under WOT. I will try to post a sound clip shortly on my web site.
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Report this Post09-22-2009 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Why not contact V8b Archie and ask him. He's done 100's of V8 swaps and should be able to tell you which way to go.

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Report this Post09-22-2009 06:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
No comment on anything V8 related, but I LOVE that body kit...
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Report this Post10-20-2009 11:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Janisv:





Body kit or photoshop? The while area below the windshield seems strange. Looking thru the windshield it looks like it has a custom dash in it at least as well.
Shades on the Plasma?

Nice looking car though. Details/history?

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Report this Post10-20-2009 01:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
Here is mine;




Sound at Dyno:


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Report this Post10-20-2009 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JanisvSend a Private Message to JanisvDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by ltlfrari:


Body kit or photoshop? The while area below the windshield seems strange. Looking thru the windshield it looks like it has a custom dash in it at least as well.
Shades on the Plasma?

Nice looking car though. Details/history?




Hi, it`s not a photoshop, it`s my car - Laura bodykit, the same as the PLAZMA. The details and history are in thread https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/077702.html
Panel are too custom made.

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Report this Post10-20-2009 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakDirect Link to This Post
Blooz, Alex,

Does that trunk side exhaust setup require cutting of the trunk? It's raining out and I can't get under my car to take a look. TIA

Pat

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I had to cut just a small notch at the bottom LH corner of the trunk to clear the pipe exiting to the rear, but that's because the 308 body kit places the exhaust tips closer together. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't need any changes on a Fiero with stock exhaust location. Certainly no forward trunk wall mods are necessary.
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Report this Post10-20-2009 09:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakDirect Link to This Post
Thanks blooz!

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Report this Post10-21-2009 08:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Alex4mulaSend a Private Message to Alex4mulaDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by katatak:

Blooz, Alex,

Does that trunk side exhaust setup require cutting of the trunk? It's raining out and I can't get under my car to take a look. TIA

Pat


No cutting required on mine.
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Report this Post10-21-2009 12:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rickady88GTSend a Private Message to Rickady88GTDirect Link to This Post
5.3 LS4. stock exhaust manifolds and X over. No cutting in the trunk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcfL34htkBc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiFdBxKgwNs
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