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Need help and information about 85-86 V6 PERFORMANCE ENGINE KIT off fiero store by Ton0219
Started on: 09-10-2009 11:50 PM
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Report this Post09-10-2009 11:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ton0219Send a Private Message to Ton0219Direct Link to This Post
I have a 1986 2.8 v6 in my fiero now but motor is blown and plan on getting another engine to do a rebuild on. I was thinking about buy the 85-86 V6 PERFORMANCE ENGINE KIT off the fiero Store. http://www.fierostore.com/P...rowse.aspx?d=204&p=1 Can i get some advice and information about this engine kit and do i need to know about anything before buying this kit and etc.. I just need some info about it such as if it comes with everything i need to do a rebuild do i have to buy addition stuff besides gaskets and all... And lastly when looking for another 2.8 to do the rebuild on what should i look for?? lower miles well taken care that sort of thing? All your help, tips, information would help greatly So if you know something please post. Thanks Fiero forum

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Report this Post09-11-2009 07:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ton0219Send a Private Message to Ton0219Direct Link to This Post
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Report this Post09-11-2009 07:34 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DCRFiero1Send a Private Message to DCRFiero1Direct Link to This Post
Sorry cant help you with your question. I dont think many members on here have any experience with this kit.
If an engine blows and you want more performance, most people do an engine swap.
BUT, hopefully someone can help you out.

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Report this Post09-11-2009 07:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Ton0219Send a Private Message to Ton0219Direct Link to This Post
Well thanks anyway.. Man This sucks :/ lol
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Report this Post09-11-2009 08:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for wyattSend a Private Message to wyattDirect Link to This Post
i have one of these kits for my 87 its the same as the 86 kit but diffrent gaskit kit. i havent fitted it yet but it comes with everything you need and looks to be top quality parts, new oil pump, forged pistons, ect. most guys on this forum will tell you to just do a bigger engine swap for cheaper, and end up with more hp. but if you want to keep your fiero original i recomend the fiero store high performance kit, only downside is you get the cam thats in the kit and cant choose your own, but if its just for normal street use its perfect.

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Report this Post09-11-2009 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
every few months, this Q comes up.
maybe some of those who asked this previously, can give a answer?

tho, I'd expect, if there was day dreams of a new street terror machine - dissapointment would be the answer
while it is a good strong collection of stuff - the real key to getting power out of these motors is porting
getting more intake & exhaust potential
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Report this Post09-11-2009 09:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Having rebuilt a couple, you don't really need the forged pistons and such. The stock pistons are pretty good and unless you are changing your compression ratio, or going to boost, I wouldn't go to the expense.

The stock cam and pistons will do really well and take you to 1 hp/ci with no difficulty. You need the Trueleo intake and exhaust and I would recommend porting the stock heads, getting the valves re-seated by a qualified engine shop and putting in 1.6 ratio roller tip rockers. If you go past that, there are lots of other tricks but they cost. I don't think that for performance you need to spend $997 on engine basics. I'd spend the money on the porting etc. You also have the underdrive pulley, crank scraper, and maybe the light flywheel if you want to wind it up.

It is true however, that it is cheaper to drop in a DOHC you can retrieve from a salvage yard, but, when you rebuild an engine you know exactly what you've got with no surprises if you follow my drift.

Good luck

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Report this Post09-11-2009 06:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wyattSend a Private Message to wyattDirect Link to This Post
thats good advice arn,
ive still got your pm that you sent me about rebuilding, ive now got the 1.50 rockers like you suggested and will tune it how you advised when the engine is rebuilt, but the original is still going strong with 145thou miles on it. and am only going to fit the kit when needed because i cant do it myself and have been quoted $3000 to get it done by the pros.

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Report this Post09-12-2009 04:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanDirect Link to This Post
Pistons will go a long distance in a 2.8 and can often be retained in a rebuild.. just use new rings,,fuel injection does not "wash"the oil from the top of the block like the old carbs use to do..
If the engine is going to be run hard then go with the performance pistons,,on a performance built engine the second ring should be gapped .001 to .002 wider than the top of course..
use pistons to place rings in proper position for gapping ..
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Report this Post09-12-2009 11:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Ton0219Send a Private Message to Ton0219Direct Link to This Post
Good Info guys thanks ) what kind of engine should i look for lower mile ones compared to the high miles ones?? well maintain etc cuz i had one with 132,000 Run really good then got a 97000 run like crap look like it was dogged and ofcourse started knocking so yeah...
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Good Info guys thanks ) what kind of engine should i look for lower mile ones compared to the high miles ones?? well maintain etc cuz i had one with 132,000 Run really good then got a 97000 run like crap look like it was dogged and ofcourse started knocking so yeah...
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Report this Post09-13-2009 01:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
There is too much variation to base your decision on mileage alone. Wear is affected by how hard the engine is thrashed but also frequency of oil changes, and type of oil used. You really have to take the engine apart, or while it is still running do a proper compression test or even a leak down test.

If you have it apart the basic rule of thumb is that that part you don't replace is the weak link of the build. If you are going to tear one down, you are looking at crank shaft sleeve bearings, mains, and new rings regardless. You are also talking about significant head work. Essentially if the donor engine is running ok and you don't have broken or cracked internals, the rebuild is all the same.

Hope this helps

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