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Cassette Player Problem by ShockWave
Started on: 08-01-2009 09:45 PM
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Report this Post08-01-2009 09:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ShockWaveSend a Private Message to ShockWaveDirect Link to This Post
I listen to tapes in the Fiero almost daily and yesterday while I was playing a tape, the sound basically began to blast from the driver-side speakers with alot of static. It's doing this with any tape I use. I ran a cleaner/demagnetizer tape through it and that did nothing. It's only doing it when the tape deck is in use, the radio sound is fine.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Factory speakers are still installed (non-Performance Sound), but I am planning on replacing all of the speakers this month, will this fix it? Is my tape deck shot?

NOTE: I do not want a CD player. If I replace the stereo it will be the same Delco model in the car right now.

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Report this Post08-01-2009 09:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
What's a tape deck?
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Report this Post08-01-2009 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpoonSend a Private Message to SpoonDirect Link to This Post
Your probably whipping a dead horse. You might consider upgrading to the Delco Monsoon radio. Has CD player , no tape but its pretty easy to transfer your tapes to cd.

I just replaced my stock radio with tape for the Delco new style.


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Report this Post08-01-2009 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ShockWaveSend a Private Message to ShockWaveDirect Link to This Post
Thanks but I do not want a CD player.

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Report this Post08-01-2009 11:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Nosferatu187Send a Private Message to Nosferatu187Direct Link to This Post
Using a bright flashlight, you might try looking at the tape head to see if it's still dirty. Those tape deck cleaners don't always work too well, sometimes Q-Tips and rubbing alcohol is the only way to get it clean.

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Originally posted by Spoon:

Your probably whipping a dead horse. You might consider upgrading to the Delco Monsoon radio. Has CD player , no tape but its pretty easy to transfer your tapes to cd.

I just replaced my stock radio with tape for the Delco new style.


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You can get an radio that looks exactly like this one, except it has a tape deck. It does look a lot more modern and goes better with a stock interior in my opinion.
This is my radio.
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Report this Post08-02-2009 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
It's not your speakers, because you would hear the static no matter what you were playing. Either the head does have some dirt on one side and the tape isn't being 'read' right, or the deck is on it's way out. I would personally lean more towards the latter, but from the looks and sounds of it I'm guessing you're really wanting to keep this Formula as original as possible. You can try cleaning the heads again with alcohol, but if you use the deck daily it's probably on it's way out.

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Report this Post08-02-2009 12:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
I was just digging around and I found 2 tape players for the fiero. I can see if it works and if you cover shipping you can have it.
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Report this Post08-02-2009 01:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ShockWaveSend a Private Message to ShockWaveDirect Link to This Post
^Cool. If you have one matches the one in the car right now and it works I'll take it. Tried the rubbing alcohol/Q-tip and nothing improved.
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Report this Post08-02-2009 02:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BruceSend a Private Message to BruceDirect Link to This Post
Check on Rodney's site, because I believe he has a tape repair system.
I think I have one of the ones you pictured, if the other member can't find one.
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Report this Post08-02-2009 03:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for infinitewillSend a Private Message to infinitewillDirect Link to This Post
One thing that can be said about keeping the cassette player is that they are a heck of a lot easier to configure for an mp3 player. The cassette adapters that are still on the market with a 1/8" inch stereo plug on them sound a hell of a lot better than FM modulators and you do not need to swap to a more modern head unit with aux inputs. Not a perfect solution but the price is sure right.

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Report this Post08-02-2009 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 87antuzziSend a Private Message to 87antuzziDirect Link to This Post
I have to go to my dads and borrow a tape. When I get back I will test it out.
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Report this Post08-05-2009 08:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero84FreakSend a Private Message to Fiero84FreakDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

I have to go to my dads and borrow a tape.


Oh man. How times have changed when you have to 'borrow' a cassette tape...
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Report this Post08-05-2009 08:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AlibiSend a Private Message to AlibiDirect Link to This Post
I have a few tapes left over from the '90s when I was a kid...

For the more modern (circa 2000) CD/Tape deck design there is a 9 pin plug on the back for adding an auxilary deck. I have a CD/Equilizer deck in my Buick and I was going to add the tape deck somewhere but never got around to it. Looks like I'll pick up another CD deck and find a place for the tapes in my '86. Its an option if ever decide to "upgrade" to CD's.
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Report this Post08-05-2009 09:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TinkrrSend a Private Message to TinkrrDirect Link to This Post
When I bought my Fiero ~ ten years ago the tape deck was not working properly and the display was not working at all.

I was restoring the car to stock so, like you, I wanted the original radio & tape deck.
I took the radio to a Custom Auto Radio shop. They found that the solder joints had broken on the display. They resoldered all the connections, installed a new drive belt on the tape player, cleaned and tested the unit, and charged me $65.00

Made me happy!
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Report this Post08-05-2009 02:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
www.replacementradios.com may be of help.
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

I have to go to my dads and borrow a tape. When I get back I will test it out.


Any luck?
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Originally posted by ShockWave:

Thanks but I do not want a CD player.



Do you still use a telegraph, dial telephone, video tape, B&W TV and record player? Tape players have run their course. Like the carburetor they are old technology; obsolete, gone, dead with no support and no new products. You can't even buy blank cassettes any more and compared to a digital CD /DVD they sound like crap. If you want to live in the past thats fine but don't expect that many technicians will attempt a repair on an obsolete machine.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Do you still use a telegraph, dial telephone, video tape, B&W TV and record player? Tape players have run their course. Like the carburetor they are old technology; obsolete, gone, dead with no support and no new products. You can't even buy blank cassettes any more and compared to a digital CD /DVD they sound like crap. If you want to live in the past thats fine but don't expect that many technicians will attempt a repair on an obsolete machine.



Yea, like film

Comic Dave Attel once did a bit about seeing John Denver tapes on sale for $.99, He said blank tape were $2.50 so John Denver would have made more money if he would have just shut the hell up
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Originally posted by Bruce:

Check on Rodney's site, because I believe he has a tape repair system.
I think I have one of the ones you pictured, if the other member can't find one.
b


Does anyone know if Rodney still sells those? I'm looking for one to fix the tape deck in my pushbutton radio (even though I doubt I'd use it much). Still would be nice to have it working, oh well I got it for free from a friend anyway and the rest of it works fine!



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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:
Do you still use a telegraph, dial telephone, video tape, B&W TV and record player? Tape players have run their course. Like the carburetor they are old technology; obsolete, gone, dead with no support and no new products. You can't even buy blank cassettes any more and compared to a digital CD /DVD they sound like crap. If you want to live in the past thats fine but don't expect that many technicians will attempt a repair on an obsolete machine.




If that's the case then why do we care so much for 20-25 year old cars when there are thousands of newer more advanced cars out there? Look at how many classic cars still have the original 8-track player in them, it's because the owners want to keep the car original, and that's the case with me.

If you're going to be an ass about something that's not that big of a deal then please don't bother, because I don't care. You have a neg.

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Report this Post08-06-2009 05:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mmeyer86gt/gtpSend a Private Message to mmeyer86gt/gtpDirect Link to This Post
as for the cassette portion of the radio you can pull it out of the radio and replace it with another unit. Most times on the cassette side the rubber band that is inside breaks. It is easy to replace you just will have to take your time. I have done this on about 10 radios. All with success. The problem you are seeing with the cassette hearing on one side and not the other probably has something to do with the left and right side bias after it picks up from the deck. I have a replacement radio like yours and you could swap the decks and reatin your origional radio front if you want. I have tested the cassette portion and it work fine and has a new rubber band in it. I am looking for $27 shipped paypal.

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Originally posted by ShockWave:




If you're going to be an ass about something that's not that big of a deal then please don't bother, because I don't care. You have a neg.



Now its my turn. Remember. Negs work bothways. You need the positives more than I do!!! If you enjoy living in the past that's your priviledge. If you are too cheap to upgrade thats your problem. However, responding in such a hostile manner shows that you are an extremely disturbed and troubled individual.

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:


Now its my turn. Remember. Negs work bothways. You need the positives more than I do!!! If you enjoy living in the past that's your priviledge. If you are too cheap to upgrade thats your problem. However, responding in such a hostile manner shows that you are an extremely disturbed and troubled individual.




I would think, that having read the thread from the beginning, that it was made clear he didn't want a CD player. You post wasn't helpful, it came across as unnecessarliy sarcastic.
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Report this Post08-06-2009 10:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pete 2m4Send a Private Message to pete 2m4Direct Link to This Post
DON'T LISTEN TO THESE MODERN DAY TECHNO GEEKS!!!!!! i admire your tatse. i have a 84 fiero sport with the cassette player. check all the wires in the radio. mine had a similiar problem and after a 2 min. solder job perfect. im so tired of people and their thinking of it's old move on B.S. i have a spare player if you want it. you want the experience of fieros it is the sound of the motor, radio and all the other noises. it's like traveling in a time machine. why take something original and destroy it by updating. yes this hits a nerve with me!!!! say what you want, but cruising in my 84 with the Thompson Twins on cassette playing is what the experience is for me. if i want to listen to cds or my mp3 player i drive my 2003 cavalier. my hats off to you!! a real fiero fan pete
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Report this Post09-07-2009 01:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ShockWaveSend a Private Message to ShockWaveDirect Link to This Post
Bump, new speakers and new radio did not fix this. I installed a radio from a 91 Bonneville and the tape deck has the same problem with biasing all sound to the drivers side. Could this be a wiring issue with the car and not the radio?

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