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Homemade brake bracket thickness quetion. by fierodustin_86
Started on: 07-30-2009 02:48 PM
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Report this Post07-30-2009 02:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
With Rockcrawl out of business I am having to build my own brackets for 12" rotor upgrade and 88 calipers on an 86 GT.
What I need to know is what is the minimun thickness that should be used for this? I is really hard to judge this from pics on the net.
Please let me know what you have used for this upgrade or similar.
thank you
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero STSSend a Private Message to Fiero STSDirect Link to This Post
I used 1/4" steel for the brackets on the zittner upgrade.
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
How does it do? I have made one that is 1/4" and it just seems awful thin to me....
This is what I have made.... unfinished but everything fits.
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
3/8" is what the print says
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
"The print", what do you mean?
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
The blueprint for the brackets
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruDirect Link to This Post
I am building my own brackets for the 12" rotors on the 88. The backside of the rotor (where it rests against the hub) to the rear wear surface of the rotor is about .360" difference between a stock 88 rotor (used) and a brand new corvette rotor... so 3/8" bracket thickness will have the caliper positions on its sliders very close to the stock position.

For your application, I would suggest doing the same measurement. You want it thin enough to fit and keep the proper caliper to slider orientation, but thick enough to not deflect.

On the 88's you do not need the half moon shape to clear the spindle, a simple peice of 2x3/8" bar stock available at Lowes works and just needs drilled and cut to length.
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
Mike, do you have anymore information from the blueprint that you can offer???
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Report this Post07-30-2009 03:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
I have it for the Zettner 11.25" upgrade, just looked back and saw you are planning on 12" rotors. so it would be slightly different.
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Originally posted by fierodustin_86:



That's for brakes? I think the LeBaron ones I have are 3/8" or 1/2".. At least 3/8"...
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Report this Post07-30-2009 06:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
The Grand Am rear bracket is 3/8's as I recollect. I just wouldn't use anything slimmer. It's brakes after all.

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Report this Post07-30-2009 10:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
I went to the local fabricator and and gave them deminsions and it will be made from 3/8 and they will punch the holes for 2. All for $35.
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Report this Post07-31-2009 12:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rudytjSend a Private Message to rudytjDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Fiero STS:

I used 1/4" steel for the brackets on the zittner upgrade.



did you have any problems with the 1/4 inch?

reason i ask is :
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdsho.../item.aspx?itemid=21


seems easy enough to drill two holes in it. It is only 1/4, is that enough? is 3/8 overkill?

Small GM Caliper Bracket Front
Item #:
AA-113B
Price/ea:
$9.53
$7.50 (20 - 9999)

1/4" Steel
5 1/2" Between hole centers
fits GM metric style caliper

OR...
5/16ths thick only 9.99 each


http://www.speedwaymotors.c...parentDisplayId=3346

5/16" thick

1978-UP GM WELD-ON FLAT MOUNT METRIC CALIPER BRACKET
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Sorry, to say so, but that part is pretty ugly and the welding looks, well.... dangerous.

Are you sure you really want to count on that working well and stopping your car?

I have a suggestion, if you want it.

Regards,

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Report this Post08-01-2009 01:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
That was just a trial for fit. I can weld pretty good, i was just in a hurry.. no worries there.....
I welcome any suggestions as long as they are productive, not rude.....
There seems to be a bit of arrogance on here at times....I would just like some real opinions and help if any one can offer it.
I am having two pieces stamped from 3/8" steel and the holes stamped as well.
I believe that Rockcrawl uses 5/16" for the upgrade that I am doing. He is unavailable now so I am on my own.....
I DO NOT want to have any problems and want to do it right. I want this to last.
So, suggest away man.
thanks


 
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Originally posted by D2inDFW:

Sorry, to say so, but that part is pretty ugly and the welding looks, well.... dangerous.

Are you sure you really want to count on that working well and stopping your car?

I have a suggestion, if you want it.

Regards,

David


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quote
Originally posted by rudytj:
did you have any problems with the 1/4 inch?

reason i ask is :
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdsho.../item.aspx?itemid=21


seems easy enough to drill two holes in it. It is only 1/4, is that enough? is 3/8 overkill?

Small GM Caliper Bracket Front
Item #:
AA-113B
Price/ea:
$9.53
$7.50 (20 - 9999)

1/4" Steel
5 1/2" Between hole centers
fits GM metric style caliper

OR...
5/16ths thick only 9.99 each


http://www.speedwaymotors.c...parentDisplayId=3346

5/16" thick

1978-UP GM WELD-ON FLAT MOUNT METRIC CALIPER BRACKET
scott


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Report this Post08-04-2009 01:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodustin_86Send a Private Message to fierodustin_86Direct Link to This Post
Well, after opting to have my brackets made instead of making them, I am quite happy with what I got from the fab shop. These are 3/8" thick and should hold up the to upgrade.
The 1/2" holes are punched and the others are drilled and tapped.
Thanks for the advice....
Dustin


edited for pic...oops..

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Oh yea, this is/was Rockcrawls upgrade for 84-87 Fieros using 88 calipers for 12" vette rotors.
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