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Side Marker Lights --- Indicators?? by James_GT
Started on: 07-18-2009 08:14 PM
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Report this Post07-18-2009 08:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James_GTSend a Private Message to James_GTDirect Link to This Post
Are the marker lights on the front fenders meant to work as indicators as well??

Mine light up when I switch on the parkers but do not flash with the indicators. All the other indicator lights work fine.

Doesn't really bother me if they aren't meant to but if they are I will fix it.

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Report this Post07-18-2009 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Yes, they should blink.

Similarly, my rear sidemarkers don't blink, but I wonder if they should?

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Report this Post07-18-2009 08:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
According to the wiring diagrams for every year, (and every car I own), the fronts ARE supposed to blink, but the rears are NOT. So yours are working properly RWDPLZ, but James, yours aren't.
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Report this Post07-18-2009 08:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James_GTSend a Private Message to James_GTDirect Link to This Post
I'm still learning about car electrical systems so would anyone be able to suggest where I should look first when trying to fix this?

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Report this Post07-18-2009 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Here's the wiring diagram:



So the way they work is like this: When the park lights are turned on, voltage is supplied from the Tail Fuse to one side of the front side marker bulbs on the brown wire. The path to ground for the side marker bulb is through the lt blue wire to the large front turn bulbs on the turn filament. The smaller side markers will light up but not the larger front turn signal filaments. So we know that part of the circuit is OK based on what you observe.

When the turn signal is on, but not the park lights, voltage is supplied from Turn B/U Fuse through the light blue wires to the marker lights (opposite to the case above). They are supposed to turn on since they are grounded through the brown wires to the park light filament in the larger front bulbs. As before, the small park lights will light but not the larger park light bulbs. The turn signal filaments on larger front bulbs will of course light, just not the park filament. So if the side markers don't light under this condition, then either the park light filament in your front turn light bulbs is burnt, breaking the ground path, or you have the wrong bulb in there, or it's improperly making contact to the socket.

If both the park lights and the turn signals are on at the same time, the side marker bulb for the selected side will turn off when the front bulb flashes on, and it will turn on when the front bulb flashes off. This happens because when the flasher unit applies voltage to the blue wire, there is already voltage on the brown wire from the park light circuit, so the bulb will go out since there is the same voltage on either side of the bulb. When the flasher momentarily turns off between flashes, it removes the voltage from the blue wire thus turning the side marker back on again. Once again, if it doesn't work in this manner, the same diagnosis as above applies.

Post what you find.
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Report this Post07-19-2009 09:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2farnorthSend a Private Message to 2farnorthDirect Link to This Post
James, If neither front marker blinks then I would suspect that feature may have been eliminated when the car was converted to RHD. Might check with some of the others with RHD to see if theirs operate the same way.
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Report this Post12-31-2009 07:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James_GTSend a Private Message to James_GTDirect Link to This Post
I finally had time to take a look at the wiring with a friend of mine who has been through that with his Trans AM. (Australian Compliance issues). We found that the wire that allows the marker light to flash had been cut and wired straight to a ground. All we had to do was remove the wire from the ground connection and solder it back together and it works!

Don't understand why they did that for the RHD conversion, doesn't really make sense since some foreign cars have to have the wiring modified to make them blink. Even if they weren't meant to from the factory.
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Report this Post12-31-2009 07:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Were did car came from?
Some EU country maybe? That's my guess...

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