Does anybody know of a spare tire from another vehicle with the 5 x 100 bolt pattern in a larger size? I have the 12 in rotors and the stock fiero spare won't work with them due to the calipers hitting on the inside of the wheel.
One option is to modify the stock fiero spare wheel as done by West Coast Fiero. The center of the steel wheel is removed, flipped, and then reweld it to the rim. Yields better clearance.
I believe there is a Le baron spare that works. Its 5x100 but slightly larger than the Fiero wheel, hub is larger to accept the Lebarons larger brakes.
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Tom Slick Member
Posts: 4342 From: Alvarado, TX Registered: May 2003
blakeinspace and i were looking for the same thing at the junkyard a few weeks ago for the same reason, blake has the rotor upgrade. he was looking at lebron's, subu (wrx), etc. he finally took another fiero spare tire cause procarnut told him that he had cut the center section around the bolt holes out, flip it and rewelded it. so i think blake is going in that direction unless we can find one at the j/y.
edit: already posted while i was typing, doh...
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jaskispyder Member
Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
well I guess I can look for the lebaron or do the fiero spare mod..had a flat the other day out of town and had a 88 front rim and tire which would not fit on the rear without removig the caliper first and tying it up out of the way to make it back home
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BabyVet Member
Posts: 1173 From: Kansas City, Kansas Registered: May 2008
Cavalier,sunfire and i belive grand am wheels fit just fine. when i bought my fiero i swaped the wheels that were on my cavalier and put them on the fiero
I know that the chevy cobalt and dodge neon wheels fit also well at least they do on the cavalier, Also i belive PT crusier wheels work to Not for sure on that one
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Cobalt wheels will NOT work they are 5x110 on the SS and 4 lug on the base models regardless this is about spares an i doubt a jbody spare would work any better then the fiero spare but i cant say for sure
I'm having good results with it so far. I will post them after another month or so.
It's the Green stuff, the compressed air can never worked for me.
I'm thinking about just keeping the SLIME kit (<$20 at Target, it's VERY compact and the compressor works great) in my car and carpeting the front trunk and making the car a "wannabe Porsche Boxter" (The Boxter has 2 trunks, one rear, and a fairly large one up front. For added room it has 2 smaller radiators on the side, vs 1 large one, which further increases room. - Might be a future mod - Together with a Ferrari 360 Modena/ F-430, or Lamborghini Gallardo/Murcielago front bumper (relocates the radiator hole to the sides) )
What stopped me so far, I'm not sure if the spare in the front is structural in case of an impact. A full size spare or a larger trunk? (or best kept as a common courtesy for Coast runs - or other situations to help out fellow Fiero owners.)
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I'm having good results with it so far. I will post them after another month or so.
The only problem is that if you have a blowout, or lose pressure without realizing it and drive on the tire for more than a minute, you are completely SOL. I would recommend a tire pressure monitoring system if you are running without a spare.
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Austrian Import Member
Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
The only problem is that if you have a blowout, or lose pressure without realizing it and drive on the tire for more than a minute, you are completely SOL. I would recommend a tire pressure monitoring system if you are running without a spare.
Yea, the canned stuff won't work for that. I learned this in the past. Slime seems to work with fairly large holes. Then there is also "calling friends with AAA" as a last resort. Unfortunately no method is foolproof.
I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested. I'm just afraid too many "cry wolf" scenarios and those things will become as useless as radar detectors. (for the same reason - I tend to ignore them after repeated false alarms.. )
Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?
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FieroFanatic13 Member
Posts: 3521 From: Big Rapids, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2006
There's a thread here somewhere where the solution with a 12" brake upgrade was a 16" Subaru spare. Only needs minor modding to fit the hub and clears the rotors and calipers...
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Originally posted by Austrian Import: What stopped me so far, I'm not sure if the spare in the front is structural in case of an impact. A full size spare or a larger trunk? (or best kept as a common courtesy for Coast runs - or other situations to help out fellow Fiero owners.)
I use a full size spare in the back. It's not that big of a problem. I still have a lot of trunk space in the rear and the front. I highly doubt the spare would provide any sort of structural support in an accident, the supports are kind of weak, and attached to a weak plastic.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested. I'm just afraid too many "cry wolf" scenarios and those things will become as useless as radar detectors. (for the same reason - I tend to ignore them after repeated false alarms.. )
Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?
Yeah the OEM ones have gotten a lot better, since virtually all cars have them now. Consequently the aftermarket ones are better as well. I think Madcurl has them on his car. They should work okay.
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Fierology Member
Posts: 1195 From: Eastern Tennessee Registered: Dec 2006
Originally posted by Austrian Import: I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested. Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?
Yes, and yes, sort of. The really old "low tire pressure" warning lights didn't actually measure pressure, they measured the speed difference between tires to detect if one was lower (and thus a different diameter) than others. Change tire brands or wheel diameter, and it's thrown off. The newer systems read the pressure directly, and can be accurate down to 1psi. They also measure temperature, so you can watch to see if 1 tire is getting hotter than the others. I had the "SmarTire" system installed in some wheels after running a low-profile tire down flat and not even feeling it for a mile. As for the weights, the aftermarket ones that go inside the wheel (like the SmarTire setup I had) get strapped on by a LARGE worm-type clamp, and have a counterweight that gets installed opposite the sensor. They are pretty light themselves anyway. My current Scion has them built into the valvestem, but any aftermarket wheels I put on the Fiero in the future will have a similar aftermarket warning system. And of course a can of slime.
Good luck on the spare tire search, if you do find a good result, I'm sure everyone would love to know! I'm doing the LeBaron swap and will probably ditch the spare, but for long trips I still want to be able to use one.
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Apr 17th, 2009
Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
I have one solution...simply remove the caliper from its mount and use the original spare ...yes, I know the braking will be compromised but I have done this before in emergencies and made it to my destination . Be sure to either tie up the caliper out of the way and put a piece of 3/4 to 5/4 board inbetween the pads or, remove the caliper from the rubber brake hose and plug the end of the hose with a bolt, caliper washers and nut
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Philphine Member
Posts: 6136 From: louisville,ky. usa Registered: Feb 2000
might be worth a search if i'm remembering right. seems like somebody used like a lebaron doughnut rim but mounted a lower profile doughnut tire from some other car on it and the combo cleared larger brakes and fit in the spare tire spot.
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Fieroseverywhere Member
Posts: 4242 From: Gresham, Oregon USA Registered: Mar 2006
I am currently using a 96 Subaru Legacy spare. 16" with 5x100 bolt pattern and decent offset. The center bore is 57 so it needs to be opened up .1mm. Also may need to change tire size to fit under the hood. I have pics if anyone wants them...
Mine fits over my 12" vette rotors using 88 fiero calipers. Best of luck.
Having a brake on one side only would make the braking scary dangerous. I think I would rather drive on the bare rim before I do that.
actually its not scary and you are not only braking on one side ..you just have to take into account diminished braking just as you would diminished handlind with a spare
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Riceburner98 Member
Posts: 2179 From: Natick, Ma, USA Registered: Apr 2002
Originally posted by Erik: actually its not scary and you are not only braking on one side ..you just have to take into account diminished braking just as you would diminished handlind with a spare
LOL I logged over 5,000 miles on my Neon R/T with a spare tire on it, completely ignoring the speed rating and driving 80+ at times. The tire looked barely used afterwards. If I'd done that same route with 1 front brake, I'd be dead. Naturally the Neon didn't have 12" brakes, but damn.. That probably would be one impressive spin out the first time you had to nail the brakes though, could be fun!
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Apr 19th, 2009
Erik Member
Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
LOL I logged over 5,000 miles on my Neon R/T with a spare tire on it, completely ignoring the speed rating and driving 80+ at times. The tire looked barely used afterwards. If I'd done that same route with 1 front brake, I'd be dead. Naturally the Neon didn't have 12" brakes, but damn.. That probably would be one impressive spin out the first time you had to nail the brakes though, could be fun!
My point is ..when using an emergency spare most people are going to be cautious and drive careful untill they can get the proper tire back on the same as if you were to temp disable a brake. I wouldnt recommend driving wihtout a brake on one corner of your car daily ..just as an emergency to get you to where you can fix the tire
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Austrian Import Member
Posts: 3919 From: Monterey, CA Registered: Feb 2007
I needed a new spare once I installed the LeBaron rotor upgrade. I found a Subaru 16" spare wheel, but the T135 tire was too big for the wheel tub. I found a Firestone T115/70D16 tire for it - fits the spare wheel tub perfectly.
I'm using a 135/70/16 spare tire from a late model Subaru wagon. It clears my 12 inch rotors on my 1988 GT. I had to use a die grinder on the inside hole to get it to fit on the 88 hub. Fits in the spare tire location on top of my red Optima, though tighter than the stock fiero spare.
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Posts: 11151 From: Surrounded by corn. Registered: Feb 2009