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Fiero Spare Tire Alternative by Erik
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Does anybody know of a spare tire from another vehicle with the 5 x 100 bolt pattern in a larger size?
I have the 12 in rotors and the stock fiero spare won't work with them due to the calipers hitting on the inside of the wheel.
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So do you have 15in rims or larger? stupid question as you must..... Maybe find a GM car with larger wheels at the Junkyard and find a spare.

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One option is to modify the stock fiero spare wheel as done by West Coast Fiero.
The center of the steel wheel is removed, flipped, and then reweld it to the rim. Yields better clearance.

Web Link: http://www.westcoastfiero.c...specialty_items.html
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I believe there is a Le baron spare that works. Its 5x100 but slightly larger than the Fiero wheel, hub is larger to accept the Lebarons larger brakes.

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Report this Post04-14-2009 01:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tom SlickSend a Private Message to Tom SlickDirect Link to This Post
blakeinspace and i were looking for the same thing at the junkyard a few weeks ago for the same reason, blake has the rotor upgrade. he was looking at lebron's, subu (wrx), etc. he finally took another fiero spare tire cause procarnut told him that he had cut the center section around the bolt holes out, flip it and rewelded it. so i think blake is going in that direction unless we can find one at the j/y.

edit: already posted while i was typing, doh...

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sebring conv..... late 90s? I know the bolt pattern was the same and they had 16" wheels I believe.
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Report this Post04-14-2009 01:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86fierofunSend a Private Message to 86fierofunDirect Link to This Post
You can just put a full size spare in the rear and use the front for storage.
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Originally posted by FieroJimm:

So do you have 15in rims or larger? stupid question as you must..... Maybe find a GM car with larger wheels at the Junkyard and find a spare.

Jim


I have 17 inch rims but the stock 15 GT rims or the stock fiero spare will not fit because the caliper interferes with the inside of the wheel
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well I guess I can look for the lebaron or do the fiero spare mod..had a flat the other day out of town and had a 88 front rim and tire which would not fit on the rear without removig the caliper first and tying it up out of the way to make it back home
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Cavalier,sunfire and i belive grand am wheels fit just fine. when i bought my fiero i swaped the wheels that were on my cavalier and put them on the fiero

I know that the chevy cobalt and dodge neon wheels fit also well at least they do on the cavalier, Also i belive PT crusier wheels work to Not for sure on that one

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Cobalt wheels will NOT work they are 5x110 on the SS and 4 lug on the base models regardless this is about spares an i doubt a jbody spare would work any better then the fiero spare but i cant say for sure
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Can vouch for the pt cruiser wheels. Have a set of 16" five stars on my '84. Still not sure about the size of the spare though.
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I wonder if there is a 5x100 spare in a 15 or 16 inch that is the type that you inflate with a charge cannister
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try a pontiac vibe tire.
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Report this Post04-14-2009 11:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Does the subaru impreza come with a space saver spare? Its probably the best choice since it has big brakes.
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Originally posted by Erik:

I wonder if there is a 5x100 spare in a 15 or 16 inch that is the type that you inflate with a charge cannister


I don't think so. I searched for one and all the inflatable spares I saw were 14" and they had the wrong bolt pattern anyway.
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Slime - Alternative to carrying a Spare tire (factory Donut, or full size)

I'm having good results with it so far. I will post them after another month or so.

It's the Green stuff, the compressed air can never worked for me.

I'm thinking about just keeping the SLIME kit (<$20 at Target, it's VERY compact and the compressor works great) in my car and carpeting the front trunk and making the car a "wannabe Porsche Boxter" (The Boxter has 2 trunks, one rear, and a fairly large one up front. For added room it has 2 smaller radiators on the side, vs 1 large one, which further increases room. - Might be a future mod - Together with a Ferrari 360 Modena/ F-430, or Lamborghini Gallardo/Murcielago front bumper (relocates the radiator hole to the sides) )

What stopped me so far, I'm not sure if the spare in the front is structural in case of an impact. A full size spare or a larger trunk? (or best kept as a common courtesy for Coast runs - or other situations to help out fellow Fiero owners.)

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Originally posted by Austrian Import:

Slime - Alternative to carrying a Spare tire (factory Donut, or full size)

I'm having good results with it so far. I will post them after another month or so.


The only problem is that if you have a blowout, or lose pressure without realizing it and drive on the tire for more than a minute, you are completely SOL. I would recommend a tire pressure monitoring system if you are running without a spare.
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Originally posted by jscott1:


The only problem is that if you have a blowout, or lose pressure without realizing it and drive on the tire for more than a minute, you are completely SOL. I would recommend a tire pressure monitoring system if you are running without a spare.


Yea, the canned stuff won't work for that. I learned this in the past.
Slime seems to work with fairly large holes. Then there is also "calling friends with AAA" as a last resort. Unfortunately no method is foolproof.

I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested. I'm just afraid too many "cry wolf" scenarios and those things will become as useless as radar detectors. (for the same reason - I tend to ignore them after repeated false alarms.. )

Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?
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There's a thread here somewhere where the solution with a 12" brake upgrade was a 16" Subaru spare. Only needs minor modding to fit the hub and clears the rotors and calipers...

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Originally posted by Austrian Import:
What stopped me so far, I'm not sure if the spare in the front is structural in case of an impact. A full size spare or a larger trunk? (or best kept as a common courtesy for Coast runs - or other situations to help out fellow Fiero owners.)



I use a full size spare in the back. It's not that big of a problem. I still have a lot of trunk space in the rear and the front. I highly doubt the spare would provide any sort of structural support in an accident, the supports are kind of weak, and attached to a weak plastic.
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Originally posted by Austrian Import:

I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested. I'm just afraid too many "cry wolf" scenarios and those things will become as useless as radar detectors. (for the same reason - I tend to ignore them after repeated false alarms.. )

Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?


Yeah the OEM ones have gotten a lot better, since virtually all cars have them now. Consequently the aftermarket ones are better as well. I think Madcurl has them on his car. They should work okay.
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lots of VW's are 5x100
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Originally posted by Austrian Import:
I'm not very familiar with non-stock TPMS's. Are they more reliable than factory? I've encountered too many factory cars with "low tire pressure" warning lights, even though the pressure was fine when tested.
Did somebody make lighter versions of them? I've seen tires with several square inches of wheel weights attached to get the wheel to balance right after a TPMS was installed. Did they fix that problem in recent years?


Yes, and yes, sort of. The really old "low tire pressure" warning lights didn't actually measure pressure, they measured the speed difference between tires to detect if one was lower (and thus a different diameter) than others. Change tire brands or wheel diameter, and it's thrown off. The newer systems read the pressure directly, and can be accurate down to 1psi. They also measure temperature, so you can watch to see if 1 tire is getting hotter than the others. I had the "SmarTire" system installed in some wheels after running a low-profile tire down flat and not even feeling it for a mile. As for the weights, the aftermarket ones that go inside the wheel (like the SmarTire setup I had) get strapped on by a LARGE worm-type clamp, and have a counterweight that gets installed opposite the sensor. They are pretty light themselves anyway. My current Scion has them built into the valvestem, but any aftermarket wheels I put on the Fiero in the future will have a similar aftermarket warning system. And of course a can of slime.

Good luck on the spare tire search, if you do find a good result, I'm sure everyone would love to know! I'm doing the LeBaron swap and will probably ditch the spare, but for long trips I still want to be able to use one.
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I have one solution...simply remove the caliper from its mount and use the original spare ...yes, I know the braking will be compromised but I have done this before in emergencies and made it to my destination . Be sure to either tie up the caliper out of the way and put a piece of 3/4 to 5/4 board inbetween the pads or, remove the caliper from the rubber brake hose and plug the end of the hose with a bolt, caliper washers and nut
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might be worth a search if i'm remembering right. seems like somebody used like a lebaron doughnut rim but mounted a lower profile doughnut tire from some other car on it and the combo cleared larger brakes and fit in the spare tire spot.
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I haven't been on this forum for a while.


I am currently using a 96 Subaru Legacy spare. 16" with 5x100 bolt pattern and decent offset. The center bore is 57 so it needs to be opened up .1mm. Also may need to change tire size to fit under the hood. I have pics if anyone wants them...

Mine fits over my 12" vette rotors using 88 fiero calipers. Best of luck.

EDIT: Here is the thread...
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/065950.html

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Originally posted by Erik:

...yes, I know the braking will be compromised but I have done this before in emergencies and made it to my destination .


Having a brake on one side only would make the braking scary dangerous. I think I would rather drive on the bare rim before I do that.
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Originally posted by jscott1:


Having a brake on one side only would make the braking scary dangerous. I think I would rather drive on the bare rim before I do that.



actually its not scary and you are not only braking on one side ..you just have to take into account diminished braking just as you would diminished handlind with a spare
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Originally posted by Erik:
actually its not scary and you are not only braking on one side ..you just have to take into account diminished braking just as you would diminished handlind with a spare


LOL I logged over 5,000 miles on my Neon R/T with a spare tire on it, completely ignoring the speed rating and driving 80+ at times. The tire looked barely used afterwards. If I'd done that same route with 1 front brake, I'd be dead. Naturally the Neon didn't have 12" brakes, but damn.. That probably would be one impressive spin out the first time you had to nail the brakes though, could be fun!
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Originally posted by Riceburner98:


LOL I logged over 5,000 miles on my Neon R/T with a spare tire on it, completely ignoring the speed rating and driving 80+ at times. The tire looked barely used afterwards. If I'd done that same route with 1 front brake, I'd be dead. Naturally the Neon didn't have 12" brakes, but damn.. That probably would be one impressive spin out the first time you had to nail the brakes though, could be fun!

My point is ..when using an emergency spare most people are going to be cautious and drive careful untill they can get the proper tire back on the same as if you were to temp disable a brake. I wouldnt recommend driving wihtout a brake on one corner of your car daily ..just as an emergency to get you to where you can fix the tire
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I needed a new spare once I installed the LeBaron rotor upgrade. I found a Subaru 16" spare wheel, but the T135 tire was too big for the wheel tub. I found a Firestone T115/70D16 tire for it - fits the spare wheel tub perfectly.

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I'm using a 135/70/16 spare tire from a late model Subaru wagon. It clears my 12 inch rotors on my 1988 GT.
I had to use a die grinder on the inside hole to get it to fit on the 88 hub. Fits in the spare tire location on top of my red Optima, though tighter than the stock fiero spare.

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I have my spare tire in my wallet. AAA saves the day!
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Originally posted by 87antuzzi:

I have my spare tire in my wallet. AAA saves the day!


I have a American Express and a Platinum Mastercard but I prefer to not have to sit there and wait for someone to help me

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