Does anybody here know if Design1Systems is still around, or have dealt with them before? I emailed them and didn't get a reply. I'm interested in the Northstar conversion kit they sell, has anyone had any experience with that kit?

Thanks.

quote Originally posted by JT86SE: Does anybody here know if Design1Systems is still around, or have dealt with them before? I emailed them and didn't get a reply.

Based on the two threads listed below, I wish you the best of luck in getting a reply:

• "Is Design 1 Systems still in business?
  ( https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/068156.html )
  
  
• "Design 1 Systems Turbo Kit for a Pushrod 3.4L?"
  ( https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-087508.html )

Regardless of how your attempts to contact Design 1 Systems turn out, welcome to Pennock's Fiero Forum , and hopefully someone here will post an answer to your Northstar question:

quote Originally posted by JT86SE: I'm interested in the Northstar conversion kit they sell, has anyone had any experience with that kit?

quote Originally posted by JT86SE: Does anybody here know if Design1Systems is still around, or have dealt with them before? I emailed them and didn't get a reply. I'm interested in the Northstar conversion kit they sell, has anyone had any experience with that kit? Thanks.

Pm me your cell number and I'll have kevin give you a call.

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"Friends don't let friends drive stock"

I had their system on my 3.1 kit. It worked almost flawlessly for 100,000 miles. The only problem I had was I had to use a 160* stat to keep it from pinging on high load.

Remember me Kevin????? About 10 years ago this guy Kevin Leslie (alias Design One) sold me one of his stage 3 ECM.s with a "custom chip" designed for a turbo 3.4L . It worked like pure crap. I returned the chip to him and never received the new chip that he said that he was programming. I was stuck with one Fiero ECM, a knock sensor, and an ESC module that he charged me $900 for. Shortly after that I got into programming chips (now also PCM's ) myself and they work better than anything that he has to offer.
HIs chips don't even have the proper BPWC's for the proper size injectors and the fueling is all over the place hence the need for a 160* stat. , He not only doesn't know how to program; fact of the matter is that Kevins chips are worthess POS, Kevin is also a worthless dishonest POS, and you'll get a used "rebuilt" turbo with one of his kits. His N* swaps are also expensive and run like sh*t.
If anyone sees this f*ckin creep tell him that he'd better not run into me. The guy deserves a beating.
IMO you'd have to be nuts to deal with that individual.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE WILDCAT"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 02-27-2009).]

Wow, and I thought this was the family forum, ha

hey madcurl, i never get ahold of him when i call. i gotta ask him some questions where in the area to get some things done on my GT unless he does them himself. number pm'ing.....

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Fiero's are people too. We pay just as much attention to them, if not more than our loved ones
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quote Originally posted by Chicken McNizzle: Wow, and I thought this was the family forum, ha

Just telling it like it is. Stealing is wrong and there is no excuse for it. I've dealt with Dickman, The Fiero Store, WCF, Fiero Factory, Mr Mikes, Fiero John, and others and never had a problem. But this loathesome, dispicable, lowlife scumbag is the exception. Kevin if you or any of your cronies are reading this I'm sending a message and calling you a scumbag. Now what show are you going to be at so that I can ask you to your face what are you going to do about it?. You'd better not be at the GM Nationals as I'll be looking for you to say hello! You lousy ripoff creep.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE WILDCAT"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

Kevin installed my 3.4 turbo and it has been reliable and is very fast. I only live 90 minutes from him and he burned a custom chip that works great. I have another friend, Randy, that burned a custom chip for my other fiero that is a normally aspirated 3.4 that also runs great. Randy has a business on the side tuning vettes. He will only burn a chip for a car that he has in his shop. He is concerned that is too difficult to do tune a car with a chip over the phone. Kevin has done a good job for me and when I needed some gaskets and parts for the turbo recentlly he sent them on their way. He can be hard to get a hold of since he has a full time job and this is a business he does out of a shop next to his house. I'm happy we have folks like Kevin that keep producing products for an old, out of production vehicle that know they will not make a fortune out of their efforts but make a few bucks and enjoy what they are doing. Customer satisfaction varies, mine was and is a positive with Kevin.

quote Kevin installed my 3.4 turbo and it has been reliable and is very fast. I only live 90 minutes from him and he burned a custom chip that works great.

Great to hear that the program that he copied from my chip works well !!! Great to hear that the turbo system design that he stole from Miller Woods works well !!Kevin got my program from a guy who purchased a turbo kit from us several years back when we had them and copied it. He screwed me about 8 years ago on an ECM stage 3 deal and he steals programs because he's a half ass mechanic that lacks the intelligence to do it himself. Want to have a N* installation that is completely out of tune and costs $12,000? Want to buy an expensive $4000 turbo kit for a 2.8L that features a used "rebuilt" turbo and costs more than a 3800SC swap, Then just send him your money. Please don't make me vomit. This operation is a complete joke.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE WILDCAT"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

No one can please 100% of the people 100% of the time. Even factory has recalls. Like I said, I NEVER had a problem. I run 160* stats in everything I own anyway so even that was no big deal. It did knock when a 185* or higher was in it. I drove it for 7 years /100K when friends of mine were blowing turbos in NEW factory cars at 40K. I only care about results, not hype.........whether it was used/rebuilt/new was immaterial.

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: No one can please 100% of the people 100% of the time. Even factory has recalls. Like I said, I NEVER had a problem. I run 160* stats in everything I own anyway so even that was no big deal. It did knock when a 185* or higher was in it. I drove it for 7 years /100K when friends of mine were blowing turbos in NEW factory cars at 40K. I only care about results, not hype.........whether it was used/rebuilt/new was immaterial.

Then can I assume that you don't mind dealing with scumbags that rip other people off? "I wasn't pleased" is not the issue stealing from me by taking my money and not delivering is the issue. I'm sure that you don't run your business this way. Getting back to the program that needs to run using a 160*F stat because it pings with a 185*F stat. This is a program done by someone who knows nothing about programming. You may have driven your Fiero for years w/o a problem but how many 1/4 runs did you do on 9 psi of boost? If I recall you were running an anemic 5 psi of boost. Almost any engine can run on that type of boost and last and that includes my lawnmower.!!! I'm sure that somewhere in Kevins customer base there is another fist waiting for him.

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" THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite.
"THE WILDCAT"
87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H
" ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "

Im not saying your not right, just that I had no issues. Yes I ran 5 pnds boost. Thats what Jasper set it up with. It didnt need any more power to suit me. Maybe that did have a lot to do with how long it ran. I think the guy who bought it did say it finally petered out on him and he put a cad v8 in it. I never babied the car around, but never did drag race it. I think bracket racing is stupid myself...i wish it went back to like what Pinks does, real racing. Heads up...run what ya brung.