Hey guys, I'm somewhat new to the forum. Just bought a Fiero. I'll go into that in another post at another time.
I did use the search function.
At any rate, U-Haul is only allowing me to use a full on car hauler as opposed to a tow dolly to tow my 88 Fiero Base Coupe. They say the car is too low to trailer with a dolly.
Is this true? I was really planning on the dolly instead of the hauler.
What do you guys think?
Thanks in advance!
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Posts: 275 From: Indianapolis, IN Registered: Aug 2008
I was also told that by UHaul. Oddly enough, it was also by a UHaul in Chicago. It's a conspiracy j/k
I think the short wheelbase also factors in when trying to use a dolly. You could always lie and tell them you're towing something bigger, like a Camaro. I'm not sure what they would say if you had an accident and the report said you had a vehicle on there that wasn't approved.
How far are do you need to move the car? I ended up just renting the full trailer and towing it from west Chicago to Indy. Worked just fine.
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katatak Member
Posts: 7136 From: Omaha, NE USA Registered: Apr 2008
I'm towing from St Louis to Chicago. I think it's 299 miles. I have lots of tow experience, and I've used the haulers before. I just like the idea of the dolly.
So you think I should say it's a Grand Am? Or is that not cool enough?
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
I say, who are they to tell you what you can or can not put on a dolly!
They are the owners of that dolly you want to tow your car with and they can refuse to rent to you if they want to. They also are liable if their dolly is involved in an accident caused by you towing a car they told you not to tow on the dolly. If you must use a dolly, make sure you tow the Fiero backwards, so that most of the weight is on the dolly. You should also have the steering wheel locked in the straight position and tied up to keep it there. They also don't want you to sue them for damages, caused to your car, for improper towing. Use a flat bed or a full length trailer to have your Fiero towed, if you don't want to risk any damages to it.
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Posts: 1310 From: Valencia, CA Registered: Jan 2004
They are the owners of that dolly you want to tow your car with and they can refuse to rent to you if they want to. They also are liable if their dolly is involved in an accident caused by you towing a car they told you not to tow on the dolly. If you must use a dolly, make sure you tow the Fiero backwards, so that most of the weight is on the dolly. You should also have the steering wheel locked in the straight position and tied up to keep it there. They also don't want you to sue them for damages, caused to your car, for improper towing. Use a flat bed to have your Fiero towed, if you don't want to risk any damages to it.
Having worked at a U Haul this is pretty much verbatum in the hook up guide. Also, the Fiero IS too low, and quite possibly they are afraid someone will tow the Fiero IN GEAR. Also, nothing with an exposed cab ( Jeep Wrangler, K5 Blazer, FJ90 ) cannot tow due to liability issues, as well as nothing named "Explorer", several U-Haul customers perished while using U Haul equipment during the tire blow out crisis.
That is all.
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spark1 Member
Posts: 11159 From: Benton County, OR Registered: Dec 2002
Used a tow dolly to pull Fiero #2 (or 3?) ('85 GT with all aero parts intact) from Chicago to central Indiana. Not a problem. Back of the car on the dolly, seat belt around the steering wheel and don't try to back up. As others have said, tell UHaul that you want to tow a Cavalier. You don't need a large tow vehicle either. My Fiero was pulled using a minivan with a 3800. Be careful when navigating large dips in the road and or inclined driveways as you take the chance of ripping off precious body parts.
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fffttt1 Member
Posts: 662 From: Granbury, TX. Registered: Jun 2004
I've towed a 5spd frontwards, and an automatic backwards. Both trips were both over 5hrs. driving and I was running 70 - 75mph and didn't even know the dolly/car was back there. The only issue I had w/U-Haul was that they wouldn't let me rent the dolly to tow behind my '96 Explorer or '02 Explorer. I picked up the dolly w/friends PU Truck then used the Explore to tow. Know anybody that has a motorhome? They usually have a dolly for their car. If you do use a dolly.......ensure that the tires on the pavement are GOOD TIRES!!! I got a flat on one of the rolling tires going 70mph. Didn't even know it was flat until somebody passing me waved me down. I pulled over and the Fiero's left rear had totally shredded leaving nothing but the two tire beads on the rim. The rim was ok, but the shredding tire tore up the inner fender well, rear wiring harness, left side ground effects, and rear left corner of the rear bumper cover. It sucked!!!! Good luck, Ray.
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JumpStart Member
Posts: 1412 From: Central Florida Registered: Sep 2006
I have towed both an '86 and an '88 with their tow dolly with no problems at all. The only think they told me was it had to be towed forwards and I had to drop the driveshaft,so I said I would drop it as soon as I found it. Never found that driveshaft so I pulled it backwards. Again, never had a problem.
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celticsam Member
Posts: 90 From: Littlestown, PA 17340 Registered: Sep 2007
I own a car dolly similar to U-haul's. Loaded on level ground, the car will hit the swivel plate that the tires sit in. Either use a few 2' 2x4's, or set the dolly just down an incline...like, say, a driveway. You only need an inch...maybe less.
I've dollied my 86 twice with a retired U-haul tow dolly. Both times it was a 65 mile trip. I had no clearance issues. I have a manual trans, so I pulled it forwards.
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Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Ive towed all kinds of cars all over the US on my tow dolly. I towed my GT40 here from St Louis. Bottom floor pan was 2 1/2 inches from ground, lots of front overhang. Floor drug over speed bumps driving it. No problems. I towed all my Fieros all over the place with no problems. You have to tow an automatic Fiero with the rear on the dolly, sticks can tow either way. I use it to deliver Corvettes, Porsches, and Ferraris after Ive repaired them. Never had any damage of any kind.
With UHaul, just lie. Anyone who does much old car moving should buy a used one. You can find older used ones for less than $500. Only problem Ive ever had was with the Lambo Diablo kit. I was going to haul it up to Dales in Mansfield for some trans work and it was too wide to fit between my dollys fenders. Cost me $400 to pay a rollback.
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Will Member
Posts: 14275 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
There's nothing in the world wrong with towing a Fiero on a tow dolly. Back it on, make sure the wheels are straight and go. You DO have to set the column lock (remove the key and move the wheel one way or the other until it locks), but the column lock is ALL you need to do to keep the wheels from turning.
I brought my Fiero home on a U-haul dolly. Told them I was towing a Pontiac 6000.
Backed the Fiero on, straightened the wheels and removed the key to lock the steering column (it would swing around on corners and rough pavement with the column unlocked). No troubles and no air dam scraping that I could tell. Made it home 20mi behind my Caddy no troubles.
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Posts: 11139 From: South Weber, UT. U.S.A. Registered: Jun 2008
Yep, you hafta lie to U-Haul. If you wanna tow with a small pickup, you hafta get the dolly with a fullsize, then drive out of their sight before switching pickups.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41120 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Yup. Friend of my has a "salvaged" U-haul dolly. (Tongue was bent. He shortened it a few inches and installed a new hitch.) I've used it to tow my (and other peoples') Fieros all over hell's half acre with no trouble at all.
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jetman Member
Posts: 7799 From: Sterling Heights Mich Registered: Dec 2002
You DO have to set the column lock (remove the key and move the wheel one way or the other until it locks), but the column lock is ALL you need to do to keep the wheels from turning.
In 99.99% of the time, that's correct but why not just be extra safe and tie off the steering wheel to be sure. While you're probably perfectly safe, I wouldn't trust that someone has worked on the column or it's integrity until you have a chance to inspect it and become familar with it. I had issues with the lock plate after the neighborhood mechanical shop installed a steering rack, that's why I'm advocating an extra step, that's all.
back when my brother owned my fiero (last year) we towed it to the apartments on a borrowed trailer with his TB. not too good of an idea, but it worked. and then one other time on a uhual trailor.
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Bellingham Washington to Oklahoma on a Uhaul tow dolly. Told them it was a precious Yugo I was restoring. Used the 2x4 trick for clearance (to get the Fiero up on the dolly) with front wheels on the dolly. No problems. Edit: Picked up the dolly with Dad's big Nissan Titan. Towed the Fiero all the way with a loaded out 96 Ford Taurus. (Which towed a trailer at least twice the weight of Fiero on the dolly from Fairbanks, AK to Bellingham, WA the previous year. We still drive the Taurus daily.
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dratts Member
Posts: 8373 From: Coeur d' alene Idaho USA Registered: Apr 2001
just towed my N* 355 fiero from San Francisco to Spokane 1050 miles with a converted boat trailer and a 3800 minivan. It labored up hills but otherwise was perfect.
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Dennis LaGrua Member
Posts: 15738 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
I've towed many a Fiero but always rented a full size U-Haul trailer. I owned an old F-150 at the time that had a class 3 hitch so it was no problem.However, those U-Haul car trailers weigh in at about 2000 lbs so you carry lots of weight back there and it can make for a bumpy trip. . Now I've got a 4 cyl Jeep pickup and don't tow anything. Although it has 4:10 gears and a strong hitch I an a bit afraid to try towing anything with it.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 41120 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
back when my brother owned my fiero (last year) we towed it to the apartments on a borrowed trailer with his TB. not too good of an idea, but it worked.
Which one was not too good of an idea? The TrailBlazer? Or the borrowed trailer?
I find our TB to be an excellent tow vehicle. (Have never used it for a Fiero, but it has no trouble with a 16' Haulmark with a thousand lbs. of dog agility equipment inside it.)
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Posts: 67 From: Omaha, NE, USA Registered: Oct 2008
I used a U-haul car trailer when I towed mine, and it is a lot more safer than the dolly. I used my 2001 Dodge 2500 W/ V10 engine and it pulled it just fine.
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americasfuture2k Member
Posts: 7131 From: Edmond, Oklahoma Registered: Jan 2006
Which one was not too good of an idea? The TrailBlazer? Or the borrowed trailer?
I find our TB to be an excellent tow vehicle. (Have never used it for a Fiero, but it has no trouble with a 16' Haulmark with a thousand lbs. of dog agility equipment inside it.)
not too great to tow a fiero. he said it had like no power. it was the 4.2 I6 tho
I also used my dolly for years with a 3800 powered Lumina APV, Not the greatest on hills or long grades, but worked out fine. With my new Magnum with the Hemi, no problem at all for power. I delivered my Corvette to St Louis with it set on cruise at 75.
I always still strap the steering wheel, even with key off and locked. Dont take much to break the pin off. I dont want to take a chance with a $100K Porsche flying off the side of the road.
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
The only thing about using a tow dolly is that sometimes the ramps will rub the underside of the car and rip on the ground effects. That said, I've towed notches and aero notches with no problem.
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blackrams Member
Posts: 32793 From: Covington, TN, USA Registered: Feb 2003
I use my own dolly once in a while to tow Fieros, not sure why UHaul has a problem with them but I've never had any issues. But, I do agree that if you lie to UHaul about the vehicle being towed and have a problem, you have in effect opened yourself up to a law suit from whoever is involved and UHaul will be on their side.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
You would have to check your personal insurance. My cars all cover my dolly and it covers any of MY cars on it. Other peoples cars are covered under their own policy. When the dolly is not attached to the car, regardless of where it is, its covered under my homeowner policy.
I towed my Fiero behind my 4x4 Ranger 4.0L. I towed it backwards so I would put miles on the car. I went from Waterford, Michigan to Sunny California with no problem.....
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Posts: 390 From: Bremerton WA USA Registered: Sep 2008
e towed my fiero home on a front wheel dolly on the front wheels with it out of gear (the fronts were on the dolly rears were not) we didnt tow it far it was in a 150 longbed 1989 with and I6
Been there with U-Haul as well. I told them II was towing a 1987 Buick Regal and they didn't bat an eye. But do puul it with the rear on the dolly and watch how high your hitch is so you don't rip the front air dam off the car. I pulled on like that for over 110 miles at about 70-80 mph on the interstate with no worries. U-Haul doesn't want to be resposable for damage to your car, that is why they are like that.