That would be a getrag and the switch is on the transmission. They are not known for going bad, so I would suspect something else.
Ok, so how about a fuse? The reverse lights just quit from one day to the next. Where on the transmission is the switch located? I can check the connection.
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tjm4fun Member
Posts: 3781 From: Long Island, NY USA Registered: Feb 2006
ok, that's not true. the switches go bad. quick test, locate the connector going to the switch which is located inconveniently under the lthe shift arms. the connector is a 2 pin that looks almost the same as the speed sender, but runs up to the top of the tranny. unplug the connector. turn the ignition on, don;t start it. take a paperclip and short the 2 pins on the harness side. if the lights light, the switch is bad. if they don;t light, then start checking for a wiring/fuse issue. the switch is available at parts stores, I think mine cost around 20$. here's the diagram:
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tjm4fun Member
Posts: 3781 From: Long Island, NY USA Registered: Feb 2006
Thanks tjm and jscott!! I don't get to the Forum as much as I'd like to. I really appreciate how everybody here is devoted to keeping these cars going. I really enjoy driving mine!
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
Okay, I'll accept that the Getrag switches go bad, but the muncie one in the console is a piece of junk that barely works when you buy a brand new one.
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Rick 88 Member
Posts: 3914 From: El Paso, TX. Registered: Aug 2001
Since my car is a daily driver, and 20 years old, I am not complaining. Actually it has been pretty reliable over the years. I'll check the switch and connections this weekend. Thanks again guys!
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tjm4fun Member
Posts: 3781 From: Long Island, NY USA Registered: Feb 2006
Okay, I'll accept that the Getrag switches go bad, but the muncie one in the console is a piece of junk that barely works when you buy a brand new one.
Whole-heartedly agree! Replace it with a micor switch with a lever arm attachement. just need to fab a small bracket for the mount.
For this, search the archives for getrag switch, after you get thru all the posts about you can;t get one, there is one that mentions a later year car to ask for. been a couple years so I don;t recall what it is anymore.
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Rick 88 Member
Posts: 3914 From: El Paso, TX. Registered: Aug 2001
tjm you were correct. the switch is bad. I was not sure how to unplug the connector so I separated the harness at the snap connector on the wiring and tested it there. How does the switch connector come off? Also how is the switch removed from the transmission.
I'm going to have to complain to Pontiac warranty about this. Only 20 years out of a reverse light switch... ;- )
PS Since I was down there I checked my manual tranny fluid. I am almost down to the add line. I don't have any Synchromesh fluid handy. What else is compatible to top it off?
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tjm4fun Member
Posts: 3781 From: Long Island, NY USA Registered: Feb 2006
the connector does not come off the switch, it has a pigtail going to the harness, which is where you disconnected it. with that unplugged, the switch assembly unscrews from the tranny, I think it was a 19 mm open end.