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Hub Centric Rings by TG oreiF 8891
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Report this Post07-01-2008 02:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TG oreiF 8891Send a Private Message to TG oreiF 8891Direct Link to This Post
1. Do I want Aluminum, or the plastic Polysomethingoranother ones? Seems to me that Aluminum would be more sturdy, but would get stuck (corroded) onto the hub and I could never put the stock rims back on.

2. What is the hub diameter on a 1988GT?

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Report this Post07-01-2008 02:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IsoldeSend a Private Message to IsoldeDirect Link to This Post
Somewhere on www.jegs.com there's a two-page listing of concentric rings.
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Report this Post07-01-2008 02:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DarrelkClick Here to visit Darrelk's HomePageSend a Private Message to DarrelkDirect Link to This Post
I think this is the Jegs page...
http://www.jegs.com/p/Detro...2543/10002/-1/152701
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Report this Post07-01-2008 02:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IsoldeSend a Private Message to IsoldeDirect Link to This Post
That's what I was remembering, thanks.
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Report this Post07-01-2008 03:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TG oreiF 8891Send a Private Message to TG oreiF 8891Direct Link to This Post
Thanks, I've seen them, and Summit Racing is not too far from me, so I can get them there. But, is aluminum or plastic better, and does anybody know the stock 1988 hub OD?
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Report this Post07-01-2008 03:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IsoldeSend a Private Message to IsoldeDirect Link to This Post
can you even find plastic ones?
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Report this Post07-01-2008 03:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TG oreiF 8891Send a Private Message to TG oreiF 8891Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Isolde:

can you even find plastic ones?


I'm pretty sure the Detroit ones carried by Jegs and Summit are plastic. The plastic ones seem to be more common from my limited online searching today. The aluminum are available though, so I wondered what the consensus was on which is better for the long term?
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Report this Post07-01-2008 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by TG oreiF 8891:
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What is the hub diameter on a 1988GT?


All the Fieros (and most small GMs, and quite a few other cars) use a wheel with a 57.1 mm centerbore.
AFAIK, the only ones that will bolt up to our cars (5x100mm) that don't have the same centerbore are Subaru (56.1mm) and Toyota (53? mm).

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Report this Post07-02-2008 08:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TG oreiF 8891Send a Private Message to TG oreiF 8891Direct Link to This Post
Thanks Raydar, I just bought some aftermarket rims, so I'll be needing the rings and I am away from the car, so I cannot measure the hub.

Anybody have opinions or experience with the plastic or aluminum rings?
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Report this Post07-02-2008 08:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Aluminum is going to experience electrolytic corrosion so is a choice to be avoided completely. That leaves plastic and steel. My choice would be 304 stainless but AFAIK nobody makes them. Given that the only purpose of the rings is to hold the wheel centered until the lugnuts are tightened and the rings don't carry any actual loads I would think plastic would be fine.

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What he said ( JazzMan ) , but they do make a heck of a difference when your bolting an expensive set of rims up.

BTW, you can allways find the plastic rings that are a proper fit, and have a trusted machine shop reproduce a set from whatever metal you like.

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Report this Post07-02-2008 09:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pswayneSend a Private Message to pswayneDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Isolde:

can you even find plastic ones?


My wheels came with plastic hub rings. They seem to be fine, and haven't shown any sign of heat damage.
I got the wheels from wheelz*r*us (I think that's right) on Ebay.
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Originally posted by opm2000:

But they do make a heck of a difference when your bolting an expensive set of rims up.


David Breeze


As you can see in these pics, the weight of the rim is on the hub. Its a very, very tight fit plus the lug holes are tight, very tight leaving you little room to make an error. If you mess the line-up it will not allow you bolt the wheel on. I know cause I've done it. I'm able to get the rims on quickly now since the rotor hats are chromed. I can see the hole reflections as I'm mounting the wheel.




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Report this Post07-03-2008 10:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for kennnSend a Private Message to kennnDirect Link to This Post
I purchased aftermarket aluminum wheels from TireRack. They included the correct rings to mate the wheels to the Fiero hubs and are made of aluminum. If there is a concern that the aluminum rings would, by galvanic corrosion, weld themselves to the cast iron hubs/rotors, why is there not the same concern for the aluminum wheels welding themselves to the hubs?

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Report this Post07-03-2008 12:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for opm2000Click Here to visit opm2000's HomePageSend a Private Message to opm2000Direct Link to This Post
Given an abundance of caution, you could clean up the surface of your hub, where the ring mounts, and apply a wipe of heat resistant anti-sieze before actually sliding the ring on. If you've ever had a brake rotor or such stuck to a hub, you'd be know the pickle you can find yourself in.

I don't know if one is better than the other.

When doing a fitment with a brake upgrade, I'd think aluminum would be best.

When doing wheels, plastic is cheaper, and it's not unusual to wind up buying several different sizes before you find the right fitment. ;>

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Report this Post07-04-2008 12:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TG oreiF 8891Send a Private Message to TG oreiF 8891Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by opm2000:
If you've ever had a brake rotor or such stuck to a hub, you'd be know the pickle you can find yourself in.

You can say that again, I've had a rotor stuck so bad to the hub that we actually broke our wheel puller trying to get it off. That was after we broke a good portion of the rotors outer edges off.
 
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Originally posted by opm2000:
I don't know if one is better than the other.

When doing a fitment with a brake upgrade, I'd think aluminum would be best.

When doing wheels, plastic is cheaper, and it's not unusual to wind up buying several different sizes before you find the right fitment. ;>

David Breeze


Well, I'm doing a brake upgrade and wheels. I need the larger wheels to fit over the new brakes. I'm torn because in my simple mind, metal would be better to have in there for wear, heat resistance, durability, and transfer of load; however, plastic would be better because if the aluminum did stick there, I'll never get them off. It's not like the rotor where you have 4-5 inches of leverage to hit with a wheel puller / sledge hammer, etc. If it were stuck, I wouldn't even be able to get a hold of it.

I think either will work because as pointed out, I can put down some anti-sieze and I should be fine with aluminum, or the plastic should hold up well enough. Since they are cheaper and more prevalent, I think I'll get the plastic ones.

Thanks and plusses doled out accordingly.
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