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88 front bearing torque spec is 220 lbs ? by Amida
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Report this Post04-29-2008 02:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AmidaSend a Private Message to AmidaDirect Link to This Post
I just read in the Chilton's manual that the torque spec for the 3 bearing hub bolts is 220 ft/lbs., Is that correct? My torque wrench only goes up to 150 lbs. 220 lbs. seems extremely high.
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Originally posted by Amida:

I just read in the Chilton's manual that the torque spec for the 3 bearing hub bolts is 220 ft/lbs., Is that correct? My torque wrench only goes up to 150 lbs. 220 lbs. seems extremely high.


It is ..even my source says to tighten it to those specs ..its obviously a error .I just tighten mine nice and snug evenly if that helps any most likely no more than 60 ft lbs judging from the bolt size and have no problems ...220 lbs is more in line with an axle nut and look how much bigger it is than the hub bolt..the rear hub bearing to knuckle specs are to 55–70 ft. lbs I would just go with those specs

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Report this Post04-29-2008 04:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroBrad87Send a Private Message to FieroBrad87Direct Link to This Post
I like to tighten wheel bearings until the wheel won't turn, then back it off a quarter turn.
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Originally posted by FieroBrad87:

I like to tighten wheel bearings until the wheel won't turn, then back it off a quarter turn.


The 88 Bearings are sealed units that bolt in, don't need to tighten the bearing itself, just the bolts holding it on.
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Report this Post04-29-2008 08:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for css9450Send a Private Message to css9450Direct Link to This Post
Hmmm, even the Factory Service Manual says 220 ft/lbs.

Something tells me that since these bolts are Torx, they'll be pretty much ruined if they're torqued to 220 ft/lbs.
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Report this Post04-29-2008 10:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
When I did my 88 fronts a few years back, I too thought that the 220 was out to lunch - verified it with 3 different sources and they all said the same. Talked to my neighbour who is a certified GM mechanic and he said that seemed way too high as well and figured that 80-100 ft/lbs should just be fine.

Now that it's been a good 5 years on the car, no problems...
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Report this Post04-29-2008 11:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AmidaSend a Private Message to AmidaDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the input. I think 80-100 lbs is more in line. I can just imaging what might happen if the hub bolts were torqued that much.
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Report this Post04-29-2008 11:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin McInnisClick Here to visit Marvin McInnis's HomePageSend a Private Message to Marvin McInnisDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Erik:

... the rear hub bearing to knuckle specs are to 55–70 ft. lbs I would just go with those specs



This is exactly right! The hub attach bolts are the same size and spec, front and rear, so the mounting torque should be similar. Note that these are only attach bolts, which see very little of the suspension loads. Most of the suspension loads are transferred directly from the bearing housing to the bore of knuckle.

(The 220 ft-lb figure is clearly a GM error that has been propagated into other sources. The only thing associated with a GM hub for which 220 ft-lb would even be appropriate is the axle shaft nut [200 ft-lb on the Fiero].)

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Report this Post04-29-2008 11:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for johndlSend a Private Message to johndlDirect Link to This Post
your manual should have a torque spec for each type of bolt (grade) and size,
that is the safest best. also, I always use Locite High temp (white) lock tite on all
bolts that I feel are ciritcal. Easy to take off with out heat and will keep the bolt
from backing out on its own. cheap insurance.
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Report this Post04-30-2008 09:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FTF EngineeringSend a Private Message to FTF EngineeringDirect Link to This Post
 
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Hmmm, even the Factory Service Manual says 220 ft/lbs.


Yeah, and the same manual also lists the service limit for the 88 rear camber to be -10 degrees.

HAHA!!! It's a big book. There's bound to be a few typos.

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