ok this may be a stupid question. How hard is it to change from a T-top to a sunroof on a fiero. There is a fiero 3800scttops car actually, that I am considering buying. But I know there is a coptop in the future. The car seems to be a good (forgive the language) donor vehicle but it has t-tops. In order to make the conversion to choptop it can't have T-tops so how hard would it be to change it to a sunroof version? Is it just as simple as cutting off the old roof and welding in the new during the chop top conversion or is there something more I am not understanding (most likely).

I'd guess it is difficult. But why do it? The T - top Fieros are worth much more than any factory or added sunroof Fiero. Ed

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Shouldn't be hard, I will even trade you my whole sunroof top plus $100 for your T-top setup since i am a nice guy ; )

Consider this....part of chopping a Fiero involves cutting the roof off. Shouldn't be too hard to replace it with a sunroof top at that time. I certainly wouldn't swap it out prior to doing the chop.

For the record....I will one up, SLOWnSTEADY...I will offer the Sunroof top plus $150....and even cover the shipping both ways.

The T-top sections are actually riveted in, you would just have to drill the rivets and remove it, then cut the sunroof section out of another car, and weld it in. I would gladly do the removal work for you and give you the neccessary sunroof and parts if you brought it by, I dont know how far Marion is from you.

We could just take out the T-top section then drive \ trailer it to the chop shop (pun ), it would just be like a targa top.

Or, I might be interested in trading you my black 87 GT 3.8SC that allready has sunroof. Im not sure of the condition of the car you are looking at, as to whether this would be fair trade.

quote Originally posted by CowsPatoot:For the record....I will one up, SLOWnSTEADY...I will offer the Sunroof top plus $150....and even cover the shipping both ways.

for the record... I will one up CowsPatoot... I will offer the sunroof plus $200 and i will cover shipping boths ways...

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here is the link to the car I am considering buying.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/041513.html

The t-top roof section is held in place by 1/2 inch rivets that will need to be drilled out. There is likely some type of adhesive "goo' that will also need to be dealt with. The car will need to be supported underneath or in the door jams while this is being done because it will flex when you remove the t-top structure. When i did my t-tops the door jams AND under-carriage were both supported. You could likely simply weld / rivet a sunroof section back in place. This would / SHOULD be an easy task for anyone able to do a choptop, a Much more difficult job.

I would NOT move the car in the middle of the job because the roof section provides significant support to the chassis structure and it WILL flex without it. But it's not my car, so this is only my advice for what it's worth ....

I would NOT move the car in the middle of the job

Ed

quote Originally posted by Fino: I would NOT move the car in the middle of the job Ed

Ehh, you're probably right, it would be a bad idea to drive it like this. But with all the support from the floorpan, and center tunnel in particular, I wouldnt hesitate to move it if it were my car I was working on. I would definitely take some key measurements before, and restore them before welding so I could ensure all was square after the chop, but its not like rolling the car onto a trailer with the roof cut is going to make it fold in half.

...not worth the effort to go from t-top to sunroof - sunroof cars are fairly easy to come by, but hey, it's your car and time...

I have come to the conclusion as Mickey_moose has stated. Not worth the effort at this point.

Dare I suggest a Choptop T Top !

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Dave

www.ltlfrari.com

Is that an original YELLOW, TTOP, Formula? IF it is a real CJB, yellow, formula then please don't convert it back to sunroof. That is like the holy grail of TTOPs. There is one driving around Virginia Beach that I have been trying to catch and buy for the last two years.

Rob

Who do you plan on having do the chop top? Archie? If so, why dont you post a thread with his name in it so you can catch his eye and ask him directly. He would probably be one of the most knowledgeable in this area.

-JOE

That car is too nice and worth more the way it is.
this is the only fiero I would not cut up.
I would find a sun roof car or hard top to chop.
also Archie has already said he would not chop a t top car.
it would be to costley to make the tops work in it.

quote Originally posted by t697: ok this may be a stupid question. How hard is it to change from a T-top to a sunroof on a fiero. There is a fiero 3800scttops car actually, that I am considering buying. But I know there is a coptop in the future. The car seems to be a good (forgive the language) donor vehicle but it has t-tops. In order to make the conversion to choptop it can't have T-tops so how hard would it be to change it to a sunroof version? Is it just as simple as cutting off the old roof and welding in the new during the chop top conversion or is there something more I am not understanding (most likely).

To answer your question:
Yes it's just as simple as cutting off the T-Top roof & using the sunroof roof for the chop. Plus you can sell the T-Top roof - they bring as much as $750 if you have all the rubber (& don't cut the door rubber).
But there is no reason, unless you're commited to using pre-made glass side windows, that you can't chop a T-Top.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

quote Originally posted by t697: ok this may be a stupid question. How hard is it to change from a T-top to a sunroof on a fiero.

I usually say there are no stupid questions, but "Pardon my French" - you've just did it

You DON'T take a Yellow 88 Formula CJB and chop it. (even though it's not stock)



Yes, yes...It's a free country yada yada...Don't even go there, for less then that ($6500) just find another solid 88 GT with a blown motor and butcher it, put your choice of drive train and call it good.

Not sure if you wanted to chop and leave it as a notchback but IMO the lines look wrong on a NB chop top.

Please leave this car to someone that will appreciate it as -is

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T-Top ~HUD~LEDs ~Red Fieros~Carputer~Montreal Club

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Yeah I wouldn't chop or otherwise alter (other than bolt-on parts) an '88 CJB yellow Formula.
I have an '88 T-Top that I'll sell for $1800; base coupe so customize it all you want.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

the only reason I wanted the car was the engine mod and suspension, most everything else would change. Too much work for what I want to do so I am looking else where.