according to the picture, your problem was not the tbi or manifold, it was either timing, poor fuel or both, it is called detonation
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Originally posted by FieroMonkey:
here is what happened to a 50k mile Indy that I put a holley TB and bigger intake on. it was tuned perfectly and ran like a champ until the image at the top of this thread happened.
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murrrey Member
Posts: 194 From: westbury new york 11590 Registered: Feb 2008
has any that has considered putting a turbo on a duke thought about putting a girdle and main cap reinforcement on the bottom end to take away some of the stress everyone says is the cause of crank failures?
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Fieroracer87 Member
Posts: 71 From: Linden, NJ, USA Registered: Nov 2007
I say if you can afford to risk losing the engine, go for it! It'd be fun while it lasted. My 84 Duke has all kinds of stuff done to it but is still naturally aspirated and I love the increase!
Bored Cammed 3 angle valve job custom exhaust Hyperutectic Pistons shaved head Alum/ Steel timing set pro springs Holley TBI on the way
------------------ Tristan 84 Fiero SE
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Fieroracer87 Member
Posts: 71 From: Linden, NJ, USA Registered: Nov 2007
or even sleeving the block down to like a 2.0L (that would be with custom pistons and rods of course) just so you have so thickness in the walls of the cylinders...
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
This post has been going on for quite a while . Bottom line; the Duke is capable of supporting only so much horsepower, then it self destructs. Nothing wrong with adding a turbo. Just be conservative with boost (4-5 psi), add a larger throttle body and keep the red line at 4800 RPM or below. However, if you are looking for Bonzai performance, you have the wrong engine. Ed Parks of the Fiero Factory owned a turbocharged Duke Fiero a few years back. It had a HiTech/IRM kit. He may have sold it but he might be able to tell you how it ran or what became of it. A few Turbo Dukes are still running but many blew up as the owners expected too much out of the combo.
------------------ 87GT - with 3800SC Series III engine, 4T65eHD 87GT - 3.4L Turbocharged engine, modified TH125H " I'M ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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Fieroracer87 Member
Posts: 71 From: Linden, NJ, USA Registered: Nov 2007
im just saying if someone was willing to spend a nice little penny to make something work....what would it take....i'm not saying it would i just want to get people to possibly brainstorm and come up with possibilities....
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Dennis LaGrua Member
Posts: 15761 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
im just saying if someone was willing to spend a nice little penny to make something work....what would it take....i'm not saying it would i just want to get people to possibly brainstorm and come up with possibilities....
The Duke block is light duty, and can't support high horsepower levels no matter how much you spend. It is a good foundation for an economy engine. You can't construct a skyscraper on the foundation of a house and if you try to build a race engine out of the Duke, the project will fail. Its not a matter of money , its a matter of design. If you are so set on keeping the four then buy a Super Duty Four. That engine is strong and has been built to 270HP. It shares nothing in common with the Duke but it will bolt right in. Neil Kline has exprience with these engines and he can provide much good info on them. He chimes in once in a while so perhaps he will see this thread and conmment. ------------------ 87GT - with 3800SC Series III engine, 4T65eHD 87GT - 3.4L Turbocharged engine, modified TH125H " I'M ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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30+mpg Member
Posts: 4061 From: Russellville, AR Registered: Feb 2002