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Anyone using intermediate shaft With a N*? by THE BEAST
Started on: 01-16-2007 03:17 PM
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Report this Post01-16-2007 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for THE BEASTSend a Private Message to THE BEASTDirect Link to This Post
I was thinking that I might want to use an intermediate shaft on my 5speed getrag - N* swap so I was wondering if anyone has done it yet and from what car, year and model it came from?

Feel free to add any comments on specific modifications to the parts used. Specially on how you got around attaching it to the engine block.

Thanks,
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Report this Post01-16-2007 03:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for WillSend a Private Message to WillDirect Link to This Post
Gonna have to whip up a bracket to attach it to the block.

I was setting one up for my car, but the way I modded the rear exhaust manifold was JUST too close to where the CV joint was going to be.

I pulled my parts out of a Beretta. The axle was 2" too short. I found a shaft that worked, but I don't remember what the application was. Do a search... it's been done with other engines and there won't be a difference except with the bracketry.

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Thanks Will,

And by the way is there anyone who knows what year Beretta has the right length?

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Originally posted by THE BEAST:

Thanks Will,

And by the way is there anyone who knows what year Beretta has the right length?

JG
I as well want to know if anybody can tell what intermediate shaft is the right length as well as if a Fiero axle will work with it or if I have to get the donor cars cv axle as well

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I ran an intermediate shaft when I was running a Torsen diff. I broke the shaft and swapped out the diff and intermediate shaft. I used the one from a Barreta and the short side Fiero axle with the proper CV to attach to the axle.
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Originally posted by Matt Hawkins:

I ran an intermediate shaft when I was running a Torsen diff. I broke the shaft and swapped out the diff and intermediate shaft. I used the one from a Barreta and the short side Fiero axle with the proper CV to attach to the axle.

I wonder if a v6 sunbird with getrag shaft will work..what do you mean by proper CV?
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You need a female tripod on the passenger side axle to use the intermediate shaft.
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Originally posted by Matt Hawkins:

You need a female tripod on the passenger side axle to use the intermediate shaft.

From the Sunbird? I am assuming you mean I have to take the short Fiero axle and put it in the sunbird tripot which should have the female tripot

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Originally posted by Erik:

From the Sunbird? I am assuming you mean I have to take the short Fiero axle and put it in the sunbird tripot which should have the female tripot



You are correct. You just need the tripot from the donor.
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Originally posted by Matt Hawkins:


You are correct. You just need the tripot from the donor.
Well I got the Sunbird shaft and it looks like I will have to take a automatic equipped Fiero's longer axle ( not sure which side that is ) and shorten it up in order to use the Sunbird shaft because the shorter auto Fiero shaft is 2 inch too short!! Any idea what else I could use so I dont have to cut an axle??


The shorter manual Fiero axle is too short as well

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I thought I used the short Fiero axle. I don't remember anymore. I will see if I still have it laying around the garage.
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I'm using one with my 6 spd N*. All the pictures and descriptions are in the build thread.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/086234.html
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Originally posted by Zac88GT:

I'm using one with my 6 spd N*. All the pictures and descriptions are in the build thread.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/086234.html


what intermediate shaft are you using? The 6 speed donor car?
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Originally posted by Matt Hawkins:

I thought I used the short Fiero axle. I don't remember anymore. I will see if I still have it laying around the garage.


that would be great ..
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here are the different Fiero axle lengths ..the one plugged into the intermediate shaft is the shorter automatic Fiero axle
the next one below is the longer Fiero auto axle
the next one below that is the sunbird axle
and the last one is the shorter Fiero manual axle


as you can see the longer Fiero auto axle is the only choice to use and it will have to be shortened

anybody done this??
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Just out of curiosity, why do you want to use the intermediate shaft setup?
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Originally posted by Matt Hawkins:

Just out of curiosity, why do you want to use the intermediate shaft setup?


it would help me make a better rear motor mount and not have to allow clearance for the long Fiero axle
I am thinking about using a limited slip as well and want the axles to be more even too
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Originally posted by Erik:

what intermediate shaft are you using? The 6 speed donor car?


2006 Supercharged Cobalt SS intermediate shaft. I also think it's the same shaft as the 03 Saab 9-3.
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Originally posted by Will:
I pulled my parts out of a Beretta. The axle was 2" too short. I found a shaft that worked, but I don't remember what the application was.


hmmm thats what my problem is ..the shaft is 2 inches too short ..no not mine ..the Sunbird ..I wonder what one you used given that it most likely would have been for a GM v6 app

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