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How to open decklid with batt disconnected and no key by pontiacking
Started on: 10-25-2007 04:52 PM
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Report this Post10-25-2007 04:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
title pretty much states my question...can someone tell me how to get this thing open with tearing the decklid up? 87 gt
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Report this Post10-25-2007 05:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SuperchargedV6Send a Private Message to SuperchargedV6Direct Link to This Post
You have to jumper the starter. I've done it before. Rick
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Report this Post10-25-2007 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
could you please tell me how to do this?

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Report this Post10-25-2007 05:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
If you have the push button trunk release, take a power supply and ground the neg, induce 12Volt + to the orange wire of the push button switch. If you must up the parking break or clutch or what ever, then just push the button. The orange is 12 volt+ to the button. All you need is a ground to compleat the circut. I dont know where the relay is, but if you can find it it will be the black with a white stripe wire that goes to out the solinoid. Just add 12Volt + there. It is the same as pushing the button. When you hear it click remove all of your wiring an go on to the back.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 05:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Take off the center plate, Get a 9V battery, Attach wires to + and -
Just hook a wires from battery across the wires for the cig lighter (the + goes to the center wire) and push the decklid button.
It will supply enough juice to activate the solenoid.

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im getting ready to do what jose suggested but will this still work since i have both pos and neg disconnected from the battery
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Originally posted by pontiacking:

im getting ready to do what jose suggested but will this still work since i have both pos and neg disconnected from the battery


Yes it will.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 05:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
Where is that darn trunk release relay?
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Report this Post10-25-2007 06:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
i just tried the 9v method, but all i get is a beep, press the button and nothing. anyone know where the relay is?
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Report this Post10-25-2007 06:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
It's up under the dash, under the right side of the instrument cluster. It's black and in a metal clip stuck to one of the metal bits that supports the cluster.

You could also just get a cigarette lighter plug power cable and connect it to a 12 battery such that the center is positive and the outside is negative, that will put 12V in the accessory circuit and allow you to pop the trunk too.

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Report this Post10-25-2007 08:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PaulJKSend a Private Message to PaulJKDirect Link to This Post
You could use jumper cables and connect to another car. you can probably get cheap cables for less than $10.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 08:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for josef644Send a Private Message to josef644Direct Link to This Post
If its an automatic, you must be in park, and I think the parking brake up, stick shift clutch pedal depressed, I think with the parking brake up. These safetys are to keep it from being opened by accident while driving down the road.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 08:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
well 9v couldnt quite get the job done, 12v made things glow and get interesting...so what now? set the car on fire and push it off a cliff?
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Report this Post10-25-2007 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SuperchargedV6Send a Private Message to SuperchargedV6Direct Link to This Post
Make sure the key is on,,, put the jumper cables + on the large nut, then put the ground to the engine or mount and make sure you have it hooked to a car battery,,,,, just making sure. It is easy and works fine. If the key is not on no juice gets thru the starter this way if I remember correct unless you hook to the small orange one which the cable falls off of easily. It is easier to have someone click the button while you do this underneith. Rick

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Originally posted by pontiacking:

well 9v couldnt quite get the job done, 12v made things glow and get interesting...so what now? set the car on fire and push it off a cliff?


Made things "glow"???? Sounds like you hooked it up backwards. What are you hooking the wires to??
I have used a 9V before without a problem. I always take one with when scrounging thru junkyards for such a purpose.

On an auto the trans has to be in park, Ignition can be off.
On a manual, the clutch pedal needs to be pushed
The trunk solenoid is wire thru the Neutral Safety feature of the car.
If I recall the parking brake does not matter.

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I wasn't sure about the parking brake, glad someone did
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not to be a dildo.... but how does any of us know this dude isnt tring to steal **** from an abondoned, or even a owned fiero.... the way he posted it sounded like, the car is locked up tight, i have no keys, batt is disconected (dead)... how do i "get" into the trunk... im sorry if im WAY out of line here.... but i personally wouldent have given ANY info on that one without proof of owner ship.. sorry
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Report this Post10-25-2007 10:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SuperchargedV6Send a Private Message to SuperchargedV6Direct Link to This Post
I wouldn't show you I was the owner as you wouldn't know me and may steal my info. He also has as many post as you so I am thinking he is a regular????

Beside if he steals it he's in trouble and everyone in the world can read this now and steal your Fiero. Honestly I wouldn't worry about it that way.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 11:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Silver FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 Silver FormulaDirect Link to This Post
he has 57 posts dude... to my 670? i have more than you.. i was just shedding my 2 cents on the matter.. a tital with his name matching name in personal info would do.. doesnt give any info away
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Report this Post10-26-2007 01:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
My trunk lock is broken on all of my fieros, so I do this trick more often than you would think.

I use the cig lighter trick now, with a little adapter I made up. Before I have used the starter trick.
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Originally posted by 88 Silver Formula:

not to be a dildo.... but how does any of us know this dude isnt tring to steal **** from an abondoned, or even a owned fiero.... the way he posted it sounded like, the car is locked up tight, i have no keys, batt is disconected (dead)... how do i "get" into the trunk... im sorry if im WAY out of line here.... but i personally wouldent have given ANY info on that one without proof of owner ship.. sorry



If he were a thief and he couldn't jump out the relay, wouldn't he eventually just "crowbar" the deck open?
Don't think he's a thief, 88. Besides, I've heard part store guys tell people to jumper starters
on lots of cars to get their remote door keypads to open doors when batteries had died and keys were in
the switch (mother-in-law was one of them).
It must be easy to punch out the lock anyway. I have a project car with a jagged hole where a lock
used to be.
Not a bad idea to be concerned though.
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Originally posted by 88 Silver Formula:

he has 57 posts dude... to my 670? i have more than you.. i was just shedding my 2 cents on the matter.. a tital with his name matching name in personal info would do.. doesnt give any info away



Sorry I looked at the wrong persons post count,, its still not a reason for you to give me a red mark. If the guy was stealing it he would rip the grate of and drop a battery in then peal the colum. Allot for somene to steal a car by laying under it dont you think? Shame I get a red mark for this thread. Rick
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double post

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Originally posted by ohio86se:

If you have a manual :With the key off you just push the button after adding power. If the key is on you will have to apply the Ebrake.

I have no experience with an auto Fiero.....do Fieros even come with and auto?


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Report this Post10-26-2007 05:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
Let me clear something up, I bought this fiero on june 12th of this year (I own three) the guy I bought the car from, his house had burnt down and lost ALL keys to the fiero in the house fire. He bought and installed an ignition lock just so I could drive it home. The reason the battery was disconnected is I was putting the fiero up for winter storage. BTW, I got it open. I used a chord for my portable air compressor that has cigarette lighter ends on both ends of the cable. Thanks to those who helped!
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Report this Post10-26-2007 05:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
The discussion of whether or not someone is trolling the forum for help to break into dead Fieros comes and goes, and the concensus has always been that it is very unlikely that a potential thief is going to come here, and in any case the info on how to break into and steal GMs is so widespread it's considered common knowledge.

Don't worry about it.

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Report this Post10-26-2007 06:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pontiackingSend a Private Message to pontiackingDirect Link to This Post
Thanks once again everyone, +'s to EVERYONE.
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sorry
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Report this Post10-26-2007 11:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2002z28ssconvClick Here to visit 2002z28ssconv's HomePageSend a Private Message to 2002z28ssconvDirect Link to This Post
If the battery is dead or there is a short somewhere it may not let you get enough power through the lighter plug.

Here is how I did it...
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/085536.html

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