So the title kind of sums it up - I lost my ignition key and there are no other copies. What are my options? I have seen plenty of new ignition modules with keys for around $20-30, but are these insanely hard to install? Can't find any info on that I guess a locksmith is another option but they are expensive enough just to open a door - I fear what having a key made would cost!
Thoughts?
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darkhorizon Member
Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
I tried the dealer gig last year. They claimed after 10 minutes of messing about......that the computer files didn't go back that far. I had a locksmith come out and pull the ignition.
Perhaps you can find a more cooperative Pontiac dealer.
Buddycraig recently posted a video that goes through taking out the lock cylinder, didn't look too hard at all. In fact I can't believe I paid a guy $80ish to do it three years ago...
New ones are fairly easy to install. I did an '85 S10 with a similar type column. Need a puller for the wheel and, IIRC, a special puller for the lock ring. Both tools can be had with the loaner tools that some parts places have like Autozone. Once past the lock ring it was a simple phillips head holding the cylinder lock in place. It slides out and the new one is the reverse.
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Hank is Here Member
Posts: 4461 From: Hershey, Pa Registered: Sep 2000
The ignitions are easy to swap if you know what you are doing. I swapped two ignitions this weekend on saginaw columns in under a half hour each.
The only special tools you need are a steering wheel puller and a lock ring tool. The part that will take you the longes is removing the lock ring. Once you have removed the lock ring all you need to removed is five philips head screws, the spring contact for the horn, and a torx screw which holds in the ignition.
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Xanth Member
Posts: 6886 From: Massachusetts Registered: May 2006
If you can get to locksmith shop.. price is much lower ,all reading this!! this week have extra key made .. the $2.00 is so worth it $4.00 for both (trunk).. you are in tulsa.. get competitive bids,,some old lock smiths are very skilled and can make a new key cheaply..its the trip you pay for..20 year ago I needed trunk key for heavily modified rambler american 6 cylinder trunk. I got best price on phone,,most attractive flirty blond girlfriend entered shop,, got it done $10.oo cheaper, the key must be close to where you last drove car? try any other G M key there are many places to hide magnetic key holder you may contact G M or G. M. rep especially if you are recent G M model owner.I would search every pair of pants I wore with in 5 days of the loss of key(or applicable circumstance)each purse,its right where you left it..
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Wii Bird Member
Posts: 264 From: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Oct 2007
I misplaced a set of keys the other day and thought they were in the trunk. My son seemed to have misplaced the spare set so I called the dealer and was told the computer VIN#s don't go back before 1990 now. After 1990 if you have a VIN# + a title they can get the 'key code' and cut a key cheap. I remembered where I had put my keys before having to drill out the trunk lock and have already replaced the ' missing spare set' on the Fiero key rack.
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Oct 24th, 2007
sardonyx247 Member
Posts: 5032 From: Nevada, USA Registered: Jun 2003
Lost my keys, pulled the ignition and took it to the locksmith. It was like $60 (I got 3 pairs and he did my trunk and ignition). Pulling the ignition takes a while but its very do-able.
As an alternative approach if all else fails, you could simply swap out your steering column. Get one off ebay or from a wrecker with keys and 1 hour later you're off and running. Make sure though you get your options right (auto, 5speed, cruise), the wiring can be tricky.
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
So i've been really busy but i'm just now getting around to dealing with this - I bought a replacement ignition switch with keys and a lock plate depressor; I already had the steering wheel puller from the timing chain replacement. Spent around $20, did everything exactly like the video and it works great
Now to get the timing down!
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Nov 20th, 2007
rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Believe it or not I didn't get any extras made, although it came with two, so i'm just leaving one in the "glove box" flap in case I need it. I'm not really that concerned with theft. I wish I could have found a keyless module, I really don't think the car needs more than just the door key anyway.
Still working on the timing although I think i've got it down, I could tell that I was off by the poor idle in one direction and the red hot exhaust manifold in the other, it's hovering at around 8 on the mark, although the slide with the mark is a bit off from its original location so its a rough guess anyway. I took it for a spin around the block, and minus the poor rear shocks, it feels pretty good.
edit: What i'm really concerned about is the door/trunk key - I only have one and its so worn that there are no points on the key, its just all smooth. I should probably go and get a couple copies before it gets any worse.
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buddycraigg Member
Posts: 13620 From: kansas city, mo Registered: Jul 2002
Originally posted by Kay: edit: What i'm really concerned about is the door/trunk key - I only have one and its so worn that there are no points on the key, its just all smooth. I should probably go and get a couple copies before it gets any worse.
go to a GM dealer or you can even send me a good pic of your key. someone with experience can "read" your key and cut a new one from scratch.