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Lost ignition key, what now? by Kay
Started on: 10-23-2007 07:38 PM
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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KaySend a Private Message to KayDirect Link to This Post
So the title kind of sums it up - I lost my ignition key and there are no other copies. What are my options? I have seen plenty of new ignition modules with keys for around $20-30, but are these insanely hard to install? Can't find any info on that I guess a locksmith is another option but they are expensive enough just to open a door - I fear what having a key made would cost!

Thoughts?
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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for darkhorizonSend a Private Message to darkhorizonDirect Link to This Post
pontiac dealer + title + $6 = new key.
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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86_IRM_TURBOSend a Private Message to 86_IRM_TURBODirect Link to This Post
I tried the dealer gig last year. They claimed after 10 minutes of messing about......that the computer files didn't go back that far. I had a locksmith come out and
pull the ignition.

Perhaps you can find a more cooperative Pontiac dealer.

Good Luck!

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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Buddycraig recently posted a video that goes through taking out the lock cylinder, didn't look too hard at all. In fact I can't believe I paid a guy $80ish to do it three years ago...

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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HudiniSend a Private Message to HudiniDirect Link to This Post
New ones are fairly easy to install. I did an '85 S10 with a similar type column. Need a puller for the wheel and, IIRC, a special puller for the lock ring. Both tools can be had with the loaner tools that some parts places have like Autozone. Once past the lock ring it was a simple phillips head holding the cylinder lock in place. It slides out and the new one is the reverse.
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Report this Post10-23-2007 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Hank is HereSend a Private Message to Hank is HereDirect Link to This Post
The ignitions are easy to swap if you know what you are doing. I swapped two ignitions this weekend on saginaw columns in under a half hour each.

The only special tools you need are a steering wheel puller and a lock ring tool. The part that will take you the longes is removing the lock ring. Once you have removed the lock ring all you need to removed is five philips head screws, the spring contact for the horn, and a torx screw which holds in the ignition.
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Report this Post10-23-2007 08:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for XanthSend a Private Message to XanthDirect Link to This Post
I linked the series of vidoes BuddyCraigg made for the igntion lock replacement here:

http://fierodomain.com/content/view/265/214/

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Report this Post10-23-2007 09:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanDirect Link to This Post
If you can get to locksmith shop.. price is much lower ,all reading this!! this week have extra key made .. the $2.00 is so worth it $4.00 for both (trunk).. you are in tulsa.. get competitive bids,,some old lock smiths are very skilled and can make a new key cheaply..its the trip you pay for..20 year ago I needed trunk key for heavily modified rambler american 6 cylinder trunk. I got best price on phone,,most attractive flirty blond girlfriend entered shop,, got it done $10.oo cheaper, the key must be close to where you last drove car? try any other G M key there are many places to hide magnetic key holder you may contact G M or G. M. rep especially if you are recent G M model owner.I would search every pair of pants I wore with in 5 days of the loss of key(or applicable circumstance)each purse,its right where you left it..

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Report this Post10-23-2007 09:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Wii BirdClick Here to visit Wii Bird's HomePageSend a Private Message to Wii BirdDirect Link to This Post
When I got my 87 SE you could start the car without the key. LOL
Not Safe, so I bought a ignition. And my dad installed it in less then 2 hours.
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Report this Post10-23-2007 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
a new chrome lock cylinder is about 15.00 the black ones are around $20. i'm cheap and get the chrome ones.

lock plate tool (free rental at some parts stores)
steering wheel puller (free rental at some parts stores)

about an hour of your time...

done.

and Xanth already linked to my videos on how to do it.

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Report this Post10-23-2007 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post

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Originally posted by darkhorizon:

pontiac dealer + title + $6 = new key.


GM didn't keep very good records on key codes until about 1994, so you were lucky.
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Report this Post10-23-2007 10:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierobruiserSend a Private Message to FierobruiserDirect Link to This Post
I misplaced a set of keys the other day and thought they were in the trunk. My son seemed to have misplaced the spare set so I called the dealer and was told the computer VIN#s don't go back before 1990 now. After 1990 if you have a VIN# + a title they can get the 'key code' and cut a key cheap. I remembered where I had put my keys before having to drill out the trunk lock and have already replaced the ' missing spare set' on the Fiero key rack.

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Report this Post10-24-2007 12:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sardonyx247Click Here to visit sardonyx247's HomePageSend a Private Message to sardonyx247Direct Link to This Post
Just get a new one from autozone, the old one is probably worn anyway after all these years.
autozone part #s
Part Number: LC14300 $16.99
Note: Black

Part Number: LC14280 $15.49
Note: Chrome

Plus you get the locks changed just incase any old owner might have a key

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Report this Post10-24-2007 12:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
Lost my keys, pulled the ignition and took it to the locksmith. It was like $60 (I got 3 pairs and he did my trunk and ignition). Pulling the ignition takes a while but its very do-able.
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Report this Post10-24-2007 01:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KaySend a Private Message to KayDirect Link to This Post
Awesome, thanks guys The video doesn't look bad, i'll get a new ignition this weekend
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Report this Post10-25-2007 12:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BigBSend a Private Message to BigBDirect Link to This Post
As an alternative approach if all else fails, you could simply swap out your steering column. Get one off ebay or from a wrecker with keys and 1 hour later you're off and running. Make sure though you get your options right (auto, 5speed, cruise), the wiring can be tricky.
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Report this Post10-25-2007 06:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
After getting one, for cheap insurance go to KMart and get an extra key made for $2. Keep it hidden, in your wallet or at home.
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Report this Post11-19-2007 10:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KaySend a Private Message to KayDirect Link to This Post
So i've been really busy but i'm just now getting around to dealing with this - I bought a replacement ignition switch with keys and a lock plate depressor; I already had the steering wheel puller from the timing chain replacement. Spent around $20, did everything exactly like the video and it works great

Now to get the timing down!
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Report this Post11-20-2007 05:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
And Im assuming you also got a spare key...........
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Report this Post11-21-2007 03:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KaySend a Private Message to KayDirect Link to This Post
Believe it or not I didn't get any extras made, although it came with two, so i'm just leaving one in the "glove box" flap in case I need it. I'm not really that concerned with theft. I wish I could have found a keyless module, I really don't think the car needs more than just the door key anyway.

Still working on the timing although I think i've got it down, I could tell that I was off by the poor idle in one direction and the red hot exhaust manifold in the other, it's hovering at around 8 on the mark, although the slide with the mark is a bit off from its original location so its a rough guess anyway. I took it for a spin around the block, and minus the poor rear shocks, it feels pretty good.

edit: What i'm really concerned about is the door/trunk key - I only have one and its so worn that there are no points on the key, its just all smooth. I should probably go and get a couple copies before it gets any worse.

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Report this Post11-21-2007 06:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Kay:
edit: What i'm really concerned about is the door/trunk key - I only have one and its so worn that there are no points on the key, its just all smooth. I should probably go and get a couple copies before it gets any worse.


go to a GM dealer or you can even send me a good pic of your key.
someone with experience can "read" your key and cut a new one from scratch.
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