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what can i do here?? paint question with PICS! by 88 Silver Formula
Started on: 10-07-2007 11:31 AM
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Report this Post10-07-2007 11:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Silver FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 Silver FormulaDirect Link to This Post
I know ive asked before..but its REALLY noticable now.

Alright it has throughly been brought to my attention that the rear roof section on my notchie is SOO fadded, everytime i wash it it seems more and more faded, it looks horrid under certian light! dusk it looks fine tho lol...i always show up late to car shows lol.., but anyway i was thinking about masking off everything else and spraying a clear coat over this section, will clear coat bring back its life? im talking rattle can, i have no paint equipment, so considering were using rattle can any sugestions..i mean come on can i make it look any worse??.well dont answer that lol...but what can i do short of paying someone else to do it.. so is this just the clear thats faded or the paint also? heres the pics i promised...hope they show justice!

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Report this Post10-07-2007 01:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Silver FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 Silver FormulaDirect Link to This Post
alright now you pic lookin at lurkers! someone has to have an idea here lol
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Report this Post10-07-2007 01:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
LOL ok so what do you want someone to say. It needs to be be repainted.

Don't know what else you could really do with it. Sounds like the CC is mostly gone. Was the rest of the car repainted except that piece?
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Report this Post10-07-2007 02:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Silver FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 Silver FormulaDirect Link to This Post
well it looks that way doesnt it! but who would paint the entire car and tape off just that piece? the original owner told me its never been repainted...but look at the freekin pics..i dont know weirdness...so what would it look like if i just took a can of krylon CC and sprayed it on???..i know it needs repainted..but the rest of the car is mint...id hate to take a chance of messing that up, paint runs, spots..all kinds of crap
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Report this Post10-07-2007 02:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 82-T/A [At Work]Send a Private Message to 82-T/A [At Work]Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 88 Silver Formula:

well it looks that way doesnt it! but who would paint the entire car and tape off just that piece? the original owner told me its never been repainted...but look at the freekin pics..i dont know weirdness...so what would it look like if i just took a can of krylon CC and sprayed it on???..i know it needs repainted..but the rest of the car is mint...id hate to take a chance of messing that up, paint runs, spots..all kinds of crap


If you're like me, you like for your cars to look "stock". But if you don't mind getting a little crazy, you might as well use that to your advantage and repaint that area a different color. Perhaps paint what whole roof section black, have it go down the sail panel, and then have a graphic go down the sides to the front?

Really though, there's not much you can do. When the clear coat starts to come off, the paint goes away VERY quickly. The paint layer is thin. You could try it, but my recommendation would be to get a junkyard Fiero part and try testing your clear-coat painting skills there first. That's what I'm doing. I have similar issues with my Fiero.

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Report this Post10-08-2007 08:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NextFieroSend a Private Message to NextFieroDirect Link to This Post
Have you tried the Turtle Wax ICE? I use it on my extremely faded yellow '86 with suprising results. It really adds a lot of (very Temporary) shine to the paint and especially the black trim. This is a cheap and temporary fix for the fading only. If you have 10 bucks and 10 minutes you can shine it up pretty well for car club meeetings and the like.
Just an idea if you can't paint it for a while.

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Report this Post10-08-2007 08:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 Silver FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 Silver FormulaDirect Link to This Post
using armoral, or tire black is the same thing as the ice, i have tried it, alot of moeny when son of a gun is only 2$ a bottle and looks better. lol, but yeah good idea get a part from the J-yard and try on that....so what will it look like tho? anyone ever done this? spray bombed clear coat?
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Report this Post10-08-2007 10:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FirefoxSend a Private Message to FirefoxDirect Link to This Post
Several have done a spray bomb paint job on a section of the car, but you are most likely going to be very unhappy with the results with the silver. If you are spraying a solid color you've got a decent chance of having it look ok, but the silver is going to be very uneven as the spray nozzle isn't designed for large flat areas. You might start out ok, but as you spray for more than a few seconds, the nozzle will start to clog a bit and you'll get a blotted spray pattern.....and you won't see it until it's too late. If you are spraying small parts you can let the paint dry and just repaint it. But, with the sizable section of the car, you really can't do that. You really need a spray gun and good auto paint. If you aren't worried about a perfect job, I'd suggest MAACO or something similar.

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Report this Post10-09-2007 08:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
Ya that roof has totally been repainted.
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Report this Post10-09-2007 09:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JumpStartSend a Private Message to JumpStartDirect Link to This Post
If it were me I would see what it looks like wet or waxed as stated above and if the color looks ok then, I would tape it off and spray automotive clearcoat on it. I had a '90 Storn GSI and my daughter had thrown gum out the window and it stuck to the door. By the time I had gotten it off I had taken the clearcoat off the paint. I taped it off, sprayed it and buffed it out with a high speed buffer. You had to look really hard to see the area that had been redone.

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Report this Post10-09-2007 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
If you do any car shows, your gonna want to spray the entire panel. That would include NEW basecoat and clearcoat. New clear will not adhere to old base for long. It shouldnt cost that much to do just that one panel (rear roof + quarter tops). All your attempts with polishes are just making repainting it harder. I think Id run from trying to paint something thats been covered in Armor All I would do it for a few hundred dollars. Or you can do as Mark suggests and pay $200-400 for a Maaco all over job. You can improve their quality by sanding and masking it yourself. For dealers used cars I myself do the prep and let the Maaco next door shoot them for $150 and they turn out fine. Check some of your local ones jobs first. Im fixing to send a 2002 Suburban over to get shot for the dealer.
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Report this Post10-12-2007 12:27 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WhuffoClick Here to visit Whuffo's HomePageSend a Private Message to WhuffoDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

I think Id run from trying to paint something thats been covered in Armor All


It's not as bad as you'd think; hit it with some degreaser and it'll come right off.

After repainting a few dashboards I've learned a thing or two about the various potions people put on things...
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Report this Post10-12-2007 03:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodeletreSend a Private Message to fierodeletreDirect Link to This Post
ha, my 87 GT is the same way, only on the roof panel, too. How hard is it to remove these pieces for prep work? Can you still do this with the parts on the car? I HATE MAACO overspray.

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Report this Post10-12-2007 08:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
The rear roof section is all the same part as both upper quarter panels. So yes it can be removed, but its a ton of work and can easily be painted on the car. Just make sure they dont get any overspray on it and tell them that or even get it in writing on the invoice. One here 'bags' a car as I do in plastic when painting just a part.
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