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1984 Parking (Rear) Brake Factory Recall by CoastGuy
Started on: 04-23-2007 02:28 PM
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Report this Post04-23-2007 02:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoastGuySend a Private Message to CoastGuyDirect Link to This Post
In the mid-to-late 80's, Pontiac did a recall/fix for the rear brakes. Something to do with the parking brake not adjusting properly after a certain amount of wear on the system, I believe. They sent out recall notices to all registered owners. There is nothing left anymore in any of the GM computer systems regarding this situation, however, and no one at any dealership that I've spoken with remembers anything about it.

Does anyone know what this "fix" was all about and what the retrofit did and /or changed? Getting ready to redo a brake system & would like to know beforehand.

All information appreciated.
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Report this Post04-23-2007 02:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AP2kSend a Private Message to AP2kDirect Link to This Post
Wasnt that if you didnt use the parking brake adjust every so often that it would stop adjusting? If that was the case, GMs answer was that you need to use the brake at least once a week.
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jax184Click Here to visit Jax184's HomePageSend a Private Message to Jax184Direct Link to This Post
I'm pretty sure that it replaced the adjuster itsself. My '84 still has the original broken one, so I'm interested in this as well.
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
The recall was to fix the rear calipers for the e-brake to work. They rebuilt the calipers and put new pads on. The recall was for straight shift only not auto tranny which is stupid as the auto has the same calipers as the shift model. If you have a auto tranny and it does not pass inspection for the e-brake, then I think GM would be responsible. Mine is a auto and I purchased the recall kit and put in mine. Works like a charm.
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoastGuySend a Private Message to CoastGuyDirect Link to This Post
That's certainly good advice but in the case that I'm referring to, GM had some kind of parts change and/or addition to the standard brakes. They were bringing to cars back to the dealerships to effect the change, whatever "It" was.

....that's what I'm trying to find out. What did they do or change on the cars?
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoastGuySend a Private Message to CoastGuyDirect Link to This Post

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To ka4nkf:

What was in the "recall kit"? Do you have any old part number(s)? Any information, like what all you had to do, would be helpful and appreciated.

Thanks!
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
http://auto-recalls.justia....TIAC-FIERO-1985.html
http://www.internetautoguid.../pontiac/fiero/base/
http://automallusa.net/1984...c/fiero/recalls.html
Google is your friend, just do a search for Fiero parking brake recall and you will get many results.
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Report this Post04-23-2007 03:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
had the recall done on my 86 back in 04 - here are the parts replaced:
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Report this Post04-23-2007 05:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoastGuySend a Private Message to CoastGuyDirect Link to This Post
THANK YOU, CANADA!!!!!

The "actuator", P/N 18019027, is the MAIN part change, although I see from your invoice that your dealership also gave you new pads, all control cables and a new internal brake lever. PRETTY GOOD CUSTOMER RELATIONS FOR AN 18 YEAR OLD CAR AT TIME OF SERVICE!! Since they found it in their computers, it looks like the folks who searched at my dealerships didn't look very hard (or at least not in the right places). The OFFICIAL RECALL NUMBER IS 91045 for anyone else on this thread who's interested.

Your help is very much appreciated.

This Forum is a great resource. Only a few hours after the initial posting & the information's been found & distributed..

THANKS AGAIN to all who replied....
 
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had the recall done on my 86 back in 04 - here are the parts replaced:


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Report this Post04-23-2007 06:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for pswayneSend a Private Message to pswayneDirect Link to This Post
There is some discussion of Fiero parking brakes on the Ogre's Fiero Cave site:
http://home.comcast.net/~fierocave/brakes1.htm
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Report this Post04-25-2007 01:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Once upon a time, the brake recall information was posted on the Michigan Fiero Club site. I think Ogre has a link on his site to where the info used to be. Unfortunately, the info is no longer there but I made a copy of the page before it disappeared which you can see here.

The poor quality PDF version of this is available in many places including the NHTSA site but this is the only copy in true HTML form that I have ever seen and the quality is much better than the PDF version. Usually PDF files that are converted to HTML are a series of JPG's but this one is true HTML and loads very fast.
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Report this Post04-25-2007 05:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Brian LambertsSend a Private Message to Brian LambertsDirect Link to This Post
I had the recall done on my mom's 84 in the mid 90's, back before the GM computers were purged.

When they did the recall, they put a little sticker with the campaign number on the underside of the decklid. (the recall was basically a loaded calipers included brake job--they resurfaced the rotors as part of the job.) My understanding is that the recall hasn't expired, but finding a Pontiac dealer willing to do the safety recall/warranty work may be problematic. But it wouldn't hurt to ask.

At the same time, you definitely want to research and (you) inspect to see that the heatshield/wire wrap recall has been done--generally both the brake and heatshield (to prevent fire) recalls were done together--so if you don't see wires wrapped up with aluminum tape it helps support your contention that the brake recall wasn't done as well.

Probably would be easier to just go get some rebuilt calipers and do it yourself, especially if your e-brake cables are still working well. Same with the heat tape (you can get a pretty good heat tape at Lowe's btw.)

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I posted this in another thread:

BTW, here's the NHTSA recalls:

NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 91V055000 - Hide Details
Recall Data: 04/11/1991
Components: PARKING BRAKE:CONVENTIONAL
Units Affected: 179036

1984 PONTIAC FIERO PARKING BRAKE:CONVENTIONAL
Recall Date: 04/11/1991

Summary:
PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTER FAILS TO OPERATE AND DO NOT WORK AFTER BRAKE PAD WEAR.

Consequence:
PARKING BRAKES WILL NOT COMPLETELY HOLD A PARKED VEHICLEWHEN PARKED ON A SLOPE, CAUSING UNINTENDED VEHICLE ROLLAWAY WHICH COULD RESULTIN A VEHICLE ACCIDENT.

Remedy:
REPLACE NONFUNCTIONING PARKING BRAKE ADJUSTERS.

Potential Units Affected: 179036

Notes: PONTIAC FIERO
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 87V181000 - Hide Details
Recall Data: 12/01/1987
Components: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Units Affected: 125440

1984 PONTIAC FIERO ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Recall Date: 12/01/1987

Summary:
DUE TO AN INTERACTION OF THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT ENVIRONMENT AND MAINTENANCE OR SERVICE RELATED FACTORS, THERE IS AN UNREASONABLE RISK OF CONNECTING ROD FAILURE AND ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES.

Consequence:
AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE CAN SPREAD TO THE PASSENGERCOMPARTMENT AND INJURE OCCUPANTS.

Remedy:
CORRECT OR INSTALL NEW ENGINE COMPONENTS TO PREVENT UNREASONABLE FIRE RISK.

Potential Units Affected: 125440

Notes: PONTIAC FIERO
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 06E043000 - Hide Details
Recall Data: 05/19/2006
Components: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Units Affected: 88303

1984 PONTIAC FIERO FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE
Recall Date: 05/19/2006

Summary:
CERTAIN REPLACEMENT FUEL FILTERS, FRAM BRAND NAME P/N G3727, WITH DATE CODES X52911 THROUGH X60801 SEQUENTIALLY OR X600141 AND A MEXICO COUNTRY OR ORIGIN MARKING ON THE FUEL FILTER HOUSING MANUFACTURED FROM OCTOBER 18, 2005, THROUGH MARCH 21, 2006, SOLD FOR USE ON THE VEHICLES LISTED ABOVE AND ON CERTAIN SCHOOL BUSES. (TO SEE THE SCHOOL BUS ENGINE SIZES, CLICK ON "DOCUMENT SEARCH" AND THEN "BUS APPLICATIONS"). THE CONNECTOR ON THE FUEL FILTER WAS NOT MANUFACTURED TO HONEYWELL'S SPECIFICATION. AS A RESULT, THE O-RING MAY NOT SEAT CORRECTLY ON THE FUEL LINE.

Consequence:
THIS CONDITION MAY CAUSE AN INADEQUATE SEAL AT THE CONNECTION, POTENTIALLY LEADING TO A FUEL LEAK. IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, A FIRE COULD OCCUR.

Remedy:
HONEYWELL WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND REPLACE THE FUEL FILTERS FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FRAM CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-890-2075 (OPTION 1).

Potential Units Affected: 88303

Notes: PONTIAC FIERO
NHTSA Campaign ID Number: 89V232000 - Hide Details
Recall Data: 12/28/1989
Components: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:GASOLINE
Units Affected: 244000

1984 PONTIAC FIERO ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE:GASOLINE
Recall Date: 12/28/1989

Summary:
DUE TO AN INTERACTION OF THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT ENVIRONMENT AND MAINTENANCE OR SERVICE RELATED FACTORS, THERE IS A RISK OF ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRES.

Consequence:
AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE CAN SPREAD TO THE PASSENGERCOMPARTMENT AND INJURE OCCUPANTS.

Remedy:
CORRECT OR INSTALL NEW ENGINE COMPONENTS TO PREVENT UNREASONABLE FIRE RISK.

Potential Units Affected: 244000

Notes: PONTIAC FIERO

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Report this Post04-25-2007 09:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroseverywhereSend a Private Message to FieroseverywhereDirect Link to This Post
I have had this problem on my 84. If you re-index the cable mount arm it will go away. Carbon metalic pads are thinner then regular pads and they are the only thing some autoparts stores sell.
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