has anyone do anything to fit some decent sized speakers for the rears? say some 6x9's? ive seen some dash and door panel swaps/mods that have like a 6 1/2 for the fronts.

The only way you would fit something any bigger that the 4x6 would be to move it out and just make a mount that fits the holes of the 4x6 with the new speaker in front of it, you would probably get a headache hitting the speakers with your head.

We've all gotten used to the old cars with 3" speakers in the dash and 6"x9" speakers in the rear parcel shelf. This was done because of space considerations, but essentially the staging is backwards (the band is behind you effect).

The rear speakers purpose are for "rear fill" only, to recreate the ambiance in a room. The Fiero was one of the few cars that had it right from the factory, larger primary speakers are in the front. It's your front speakers that should provide the primary sound of your "front stage".

Replacing the fronts with high quality components will dramatically impove the sound system, and good quality rear speakers is all you need.

Plates for components in dash https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/080031.html

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quote Originally posted by fierosound: We've all gotten used to the old cars with 3" speakers in the dash and 6"x9" speakers in the rear parcel shelf. This was done because of space considerations, but essentially the staging is backwards (the band is behind you effect). The rear speakers purpose are for "rear fill" only, to recreate the ambiance in a room. The Fiero was one of the few cars that had it right from the factory, larger primary speakers are in the front. It's your front speakers that should provide the primary sound of your "front stage".

You are absolutely correct, in that the majority of cars have it backwards with rear stage, but I've gotten used to it. I had a 5.1 amplifier in my car and the front stage was driving me crazy. I just never got used to it. I'm wanting to add seat speakers to pull the sound more to the rear.

I wouldn't want anything bigger than the 4 x 6 pillar speakers that are there now. I did replace the stock ones with a set of Clarions but I would think anything bigger right behind your head would be asking for deafness problems later down the road.

The space for mounting speakers in the B-pillar is very limited; the stock speakers just barely fit. I put some Pioneer 4x6 speakers in one of my Fieros and they fit - but the magnet is stuck to the sheet metal in the back of the mounting hole.

I don't see how a larger speaker could fit - most 4x6 speakers won't fit.

jscott, where did u find a 5.1 channel amp? and how many watts is it? thats exactly what i need for my carputer project im doing for my fiero. i didnt even know that the speakers are supposed to be like that in the fiero. i guess i will just keep them the same size, but much better quality speakers. if the magnets too big, ill just manage. ive had to do it b4. and the headrest speakers sound like a good idea too. just not sure how well it will be for surround sound.

There is a nice rule in coxaial speakers, that goes somthing like, its not how big it is its how you use it.

Basicly, if you get nice small speakers, and put quality power to them, aka an external amp, you will see a very nice improvment in both bass, loudness, and clarity.

I mean remember, your already packing 4 nice sized speakers into a very small car, add some new technology on top of that and it gets VERY LOUD very quickly.

im more into quality of the sound then loudness. i hate that thump thump $hit you hear out in town. i do want to put a sub in the car. like the one from i think its fibersmith. hes out here in oklahoma, like a 10 minute drive for me. same with design1systems. how does that consol box sub sound in the fiero?

How about small speakers mounted on the center consul (top of each side) aimed at the side window. Run it off the same channel as the 4x6 on the other side of the car, at lower power. Wouldn't that give a better sound to each seat occupant? I know that when I balance the stereo for me, the passenger side gets more volume to balance the music between my ears.
I also agree that music quality is of primary importance. Those kids with their load thumping stereos will be more deaf as time goes by.

i think the pass side is naturally louder. sorta

quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: jscott, where did u find a 5.1 channel amp? and how many watts is it? thats exactly what i need for my carputer project im doing for my fiero. i didnt even know that the speakers are supposed to be like that in the fiero. i guess i will just keep them the same size, but much better quality speakers. if the magnets too big, ill just manage. ive had to do it b4. and the headrest speakers sound like a good idea too. just not sure how well it will be for surround sound.

Carputer? Cool. Are you on Mp3car.com?

-M

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quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: jscott, where did u find a 5.1 channel amp? and how many watts is it?.

I had a Boss DVD7000 head unit that came with an outboard amp, (80 watts x 4 + 30 watts x 1), well you had to add your own sub amp so it was really a 5.0 amp. But the head unit decoded the full 5.1 signal.

Anyway I can't say I would recommend it, because the head unit crapped out after less than a year. The amp still works, so I suppose I can use it in another application, like with a carputer.

But my point was that a heavy front stage with most everything coming out the center channel works great for movies, not so much for music. So in a car the 5.1 setup isn't all that useful.

quote Originally posted by americasfuture2k: im more into quality of the sound then loudness.

http://www.polkaudio.com/ca...talls/view.php?id=13

quote Originally posted by jscott1: But my point was that a heavy front stage with most everything coming out the center channel works great for movies, not so much for music. So in a car the 5.1 setup isn't all that useful.

Center channel's in a car tend to make each seat the center of the stereo seperation. Ths allows each passenger their own listening environment. The 84-85 Fiero's with the seat speakers actually did a good job of this. If the 5.1 system is set-up correctly it will sound perfect in a car.

My car has a surround sound processor which I can adjust the delay of the front and rear speakers to make the interior sound larger and wider than it really is. So I get the effect of having a center channel.

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quote Originally posted by Austrian Import: Carputer? Cool. Are you on Mp3car.com? -M

ya, im not registered there. yet. its a damn nice site though

I have been doing carputer for awhile now, about 3 years or so I guess. I was an orginal member to mp3car.com

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I have been doing carputer for awhile now, about 3 years or so I guess. I was an orginal member to mp3car.com

got any pics i can see? hows the glare? pros, cons?

what other kind of amazing audio things can u do to a fiero that will not take up the 1 cubic foot of space it has left. haha. im wanting it to look as stock as possible.

I just cleaned up my new 85GT and found that someone had installed some alpine 4" into the firewall near the B pillar. Look pretty good but I have yet to actually hear them. Just a thought.

can u get a picture of them? and let me know how they sound. i dont think they will sound all tha good though. because they will be firing right into the back of the seat.