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Gen I Headlights to Gen II Headlights by Tinton
Started on: 12-14-2006 02:43 AM
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Anyone done this before? Anyone have a detailed write-up? Should I just buy the motors, harness, and control module from a '87-'88 Fiero or what? If I went that route, where/how would I mount the control module? It goes under the passenger-front wheelwell...is there a spot for it in a '86 Fiero?

I'm through with my '86 (Gen I) headlights, they're utter crap and need to be removed from the car, heh. There's just way too much that can go wrong on them, right now they won't even try to go up/down no matter how I press the headlight switch. I could replace all the relays and harness only to figure out the motors need to be rebuilt my someone who knows them better.

I've had nothing but good luck with the lights on my '88 GT, they always go up, they're easy to rebuild, etc. I also don't like the looks of flushmounts, I want to keep the pop-ups.

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Here is Cliff's conversion:

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20060811-2-071514.html

With pics and everything.

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Cool build up. I'm guessing that all the connectors are plug-and-play between the Gen II harness and the fan relay, turn signals, etc? Where is the fan relay, btw? And should I look for a '87 harness instead of '88 so I can keep both horns working?
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Originally posted by Tinton:

Cool build up. I'm guessing that all the connectors are plug-and-play between the Gen II harness and the fan relay, turn signals, etc? Where is the fan relay, btw? And should I look for a '87 harness instead of '88 so I can keep both horns working?


On my 84 the fan relay is in front of the driverside headlight. I think Cliff split the horn wire with the other side to get them both to work with the 88 harness. I guess the 87 would be easier with no splicing.

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Heres some more info from one of buddy`s write ups....
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/068488.html
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Originally posted by 3800superfast:

Heres some more info from one of buddy`s write ups....
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/068488.html


i think he's done trying to fix them.

Tinton, can i have your old motors and relays?
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Originally posted by buddycraigg:


i think he's done trying to fix them.

Tinton, can i have your old motors and relays?


Yeah, I've spent a couple of months troubleshooting them in my spare time. Its insane. With the motors in my '88 GT it usually takes me an hour to fix them.

It started with the passenger side motor continuing to spin when it would shut off. So I got a rebuild kit from Rodney. I rebuilt it, put it in there, and the motor would run down the battery because it would sit there and "tick" all night. I got another motor from a Georgia Fiero Club member, it had the same problem, so I just unplugged the single wire that makes that motor go up. About a month after that the relay for the passenger side motor popped and started smoking. I unplugged it, and got a new relay. Now neither headlight motor goes up, I cleaned the grounds, moved the new relay to the isolation relay (sends power to both motors) because I was worried that main relay had also blown and the relays all looked the same and plugged in the same. That was to try and get at least the driver's side to go up. Right now, the driver's side headlight will sometimes go down when the switch is set to off. It'll never go up. The passenger side will sometimes go up when the system is off. It'll never go down though, and it doesn't match the position of the switch. I'm through messing with them, there's probably something wrong in the relays, the harness, or inside the motors themselves, and at this point I might as well switch to the Gen II's.

buddy, I'll send you my old motors when I'm done with them heh. Right now I need a complete '87 setup (or possibly '88). From Cliff's write-up, it looks like it'd take me about an hour or so to get the new setup in. Right now I need my current motors to just hold up the headlights.
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Report this Post12-14-2006 03:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
understood, just please keep me in mind when you do the swap. i'm in no hurry
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