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Swapping 2.8 from 85 4 spd. to 87 auto - Advice sought by Rocky Top
Started on: 10-20-2006 11:20 PM
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Last post by: Rocky Top on 10-22-2006 12:09 AM
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Report this Post10-20-2006 11:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rocky TopSend a Private Message to Rocky TopDirect Link to This Post
I will like to put a low mileage 2.8 from 85 Fiero four speed into an 87 GT auto tranny car.

Have engine complete with transmission on cradle and attached wiring harness (ECM back) from donor car.

My question is what are the differencies in the two wiring harnesses ?

I assume I will have to swap over the wiring harness to the one originally in the GT.

Beside swapping over the tranny and most likely the hearness is there anything else I need to swap over ?
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Report this Post10-20-2006 11:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
So your switching to the manual right?

You will have to do what you stated plus the shifter, cable, steering column, ecm peddles. Never done one sure there is more.

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Report this Post10-20-2006 11:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for paulcalSend a Private Message to paulcalDirect Link to This Post
If your going to keep the auto tranny there's nothing to change, just swap the motor. If your going to go with a manual tranny you have a lot of fun in store. you'll need to swap the ecm, re-pin the C-500 to match up with the manual wiring harness and install an entire clutch system. Some would say it's easier to just buy a car with everything already in place but it is doable if you have the time, $$$ and patience.

I'm not exactly clear from your post what you have in mind.

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Report this Post10-20-2006 11:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Rocky TopSend a Private Message to Rocky TopDirect Link to This Post
Keeping the auto tranny.

Just making sure what I had to change over. Harness, brackets, etc.

Plus I will be changing the water pump and plugs while the engine is out of the car.

Any other suggestions ?

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Report this Post10-21-2006 06:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2farnorthSend a Private Message to 2farnorthDirect Link to This Post
Since you said GT, I assume the 87 was already a 2.8. If so, then it's pretty much plug and play

If for some reason it has a 2.5 then you are going to need an ecm for a 2.8 auto trans, 2.8 auto wiring harness or modify the 2.8 stick harness to make it work, 2.8 auto flex plate, change the fuel pump to the higher pressure unit, change the fuel lines from the pump to eng, and you'll need the 2.8 exhaust. I'm sure there's more that I can't remember right now.


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Report this Post10-21-2006 08:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3800superfastSend a Private Message to 3800superfastDirect Link to This Post
Ok, Now that everyone is confused here (including me) I think your saying that you have a 2.8 from the 85--thats simply going in the 87GT--The 87Gt allready has an auto trans in it ? Yes I think, ok leave everything as is including the harness , ecm, ect. If your going auto the harness and ecm will remain the same--so really nothing to do (plug-n-play. If you have any up-grades planned -do them now. Check your exhaust manifolds for cracks and so on, so you don`t have to do that after the engine is back in the car, any possible thing you would hate to do to the engine --(while in the car)--do it now. Belts, alt,hoses, plugs, pump,manifolds, gaskets, sensors, paint, ect.. hope this helps some...
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Report this Post10-21-2006 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for p8ntman442Click Here to visit p8ntman442's HomePageSend a Private Message to p8ntman442Direct Link to This Post
Keep your GT's harness in the GT, the differences are the transmission control switch. Stay with what you have, use the donor motor and just bolt it up. Nothing changes.


If I were you, I would swap to the 4spd. You will love it. ask and I will tell you how.
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Report this Post10-22-2006 12:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rocky TopSend a Private Message to Rocky TopDirect Link to This Post
Thanks everyone.

Correct. Donor car is 85 2.8 4-speed. Recipient is 87 GT 2.8 automatic.

Really wife's car. She doesn't want a stick.


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